S6.194.4.12.4.29 Find a nonzero vector orthogonal to plane

In summary, to find a nonzero vector orthogonal to the plane through the given points P, Q, and R, we first need to find the equation of the plane by using the cross product of the vectors PR and PQ. Once we have the normal vector to the plane, we can use it to define the plane and find the area of the triangle PQR, which can be calculated using the formula $\frac{1}{2} \lvert \vec{PR} \times \vec{PQ} \rvert$. The resulting area is 7/2.
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$\tiny{s6.194.4.12.4.29}$
$\textsf{a. Find a nonzero vector orthogonal to plane
through the points: }$
$\textsf{b. Find the area of the triangle PQR}$
\begin{align} \displaystyle
&P(1,0,0)& &Q(0,2,0)& &R(0,0,3)\\
%&=\color{red}{\frac{1209}{28} }
\end{align}
$\textit{do what first?}$
 
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  • #2
karush said:
$\tiny{s6.194.4.12.4.29}$
$\textsf{a. Find a nonzero vector orthogonal to plane
through the points: }$
$\textsf{b. Find the area of the triangle PQR}$
\begin{align} \displaystyle
&P(1,0,0)& &Q(0,2,0)& &R(0,0,3)\\
%&=\color{red}{\frac{1209}{28} }
\end{align}
$\textit{do what first?}$

You could start by drawing the vectors on a graph maybe (this will help with the second part too). This will give you a more intuitive understanding of what's happening. Next, you need to think about what the question means by how it says 'orthogonal'. Do you know what this means and how it applies to the question?
 
  • #3
orthogonal means perpendicular
 
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In finding a non-zero vector orthogonal to the plane we are essentially defining the plane. So, let's find the equation of the plane given the three points P, Q and R.

Let $\hat{n} = \hat{PR} \times \hat{PQ}$ be the vector normal to the plane.

$\hat{PQ} = \hat{OQ} - \hat{OP} = (0\hat{\imath} +2 \hat{\jmath} + 0\hat{k}) - (\hat{\imath} + 0\hat{\jmath} + 0\hat{k}) = -\hat{\imath} +2\hat{\jmath}$

$\hat{PR} = \hat{OR} - \hat{OP} = (0\hat{\imath} +0\hat{\jmath} + 3\hat{k}) - (\hat{\imath} + 0\hat{\jmath} + 0\hat{k}) = -\hat{\imath} + 3\hat{k}$

Now,

$\hat{n} = \hat{PR} \times \hat{PQ} =

\begin{vmatrix}\
\hat{\imath}&\hat{\jmath}&\hat{k} \\
-1&2&0 \\
-1&0&3
\end{vmatrix} = \hat{\imath} \begin{vmatrix} 2&0\\ 0&3 \end{vmatrix} - \hat{\jmath} \begin{vmatrix} -1&0\\ -1&3 \end{vmatrix} + \hat{k} \begin{vmatrix} -1&0\\ -2&3 \end{vmatrix}$

Can you finish it off?
 
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Joppy said:
In finding a non-zero vector orthogonal to the plane we are essentially defining the plane. So, let's find the equation of the plane given the three points P, Q and R.

Let $\hat{n} = \hat{PR} \times \hat{PQ}$ be the vector normal to the plane.

$\hat{PQ} = \hat{OQ} - \hat{OP} = (0\hat{\imath} +2 \hat{\jmath} + 0\hat{k}) - (\hat{\imath} + 0\hat{\jmath} + 0\hat{k}) = -\hat{\imath} +2\hat{\jmath}$

$\hat{PR} = \hat{OR} - \hat{OP} = (0\hat{\imath} +0\hat{\jmath} + 3\hat{k}) - (\hat{\imath} + 0\hat{\jmath} + 0\hat{k}) = -\hat{\imath} + 3\hat{k}$

Now,

$\hat{n} = \hat{PR} \times \hat{PQ} =

\begin{vmatrix}\
\hat{\imath}&\hat{\jmath}&\hat{k} \\
-1&2&0 \\
-1&0&3
\end{vmatrix} = \hat{\imath} \begin{vmatrix} 2&0\\ 0&3 \end{vmatrix} - \hat{\jmath} \begin{vmatrix} -1&0\\ -1&3 \end{vmatrix} + \hat{k} \begin{vmatrix} -1&0\\ -2&3 \end{vmatrix}$

Can you finish it off?

That should be

$$\begin{vmatrix}\
\hat{\imath}&\hat{\jmath}&\hat{k} \\
-1&2&0 \\
-1&0&3
\end{vmatrix} = \hat{\imath} \begin{vmatrix} 2&0\\ 0&3 \end{vmatrix} - \hat{\jmath} \begin{vmatrix} -1&0\\ -1&3 \end{vmatrix} + \hat{k} \begin{vmatrix} -1&2\\ -1&0 \end{vmatrix}$$
 
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(6,3,2)
 
  • #7
Yes. The required area is 7/2. Do you see why?
 
  • #8
Whoops sorry about that. I also forgot to post this website for the OP. A nice simple way for plotting vectors. It also shows addition, subtraction, and cross product of 2 vectors.
 
  • #9
Joppy said:
Whoops sorry about that. I also forgot to post this website for the OP. A nice simple way for plotting vectors. It also shows addition, subtraction, and cross product of 2 vectors.

yeah very cool I'll start using it here...better than W|A
 
  • #10
karush said:
yeah very cool I'll start using it here...better than W|A

- - - Updated - - -Maybe not better, but definitely easier ;) :).
 
  • #11
greg1313 said:
Yes. The required area is 7/2. Do you see why?

TBH no
 
  • #12
$\triangle{PQR}=\sqrt{6^2+3^2+2^2}/2=\sqrt{49}/2=7/2$
 

FAQ: S6.194.4.12.4.29 Find a nonzero vector orthogonal to plane

What is the meaning of "nonzero vector" in this context?

In mathematics, a vector is a quantity that has both magnitude and direction. A nonzero vector is one that has a magnitude greater than zero, meaning it has a non-zero length.

How is a vector considered "orthogonal" to a plane?

A vector is orthogonal to a plane if it is perpendicular to every vector in the plane. This means that the dot product of the vector and any vector in the plane is equal to zero.

How do you find a nonzero vector orthogonal to a plane?

To find a nonzero vector orthogonal to a plane, you can use the cross product of two non-parallel vectors within the plane. The resulting vector will be orthogonal to the plane.

Can there be more than one nonzero vector orthogonal to a plane?

Yes, there can be an infinite number of nonzero vectors orthogonal to a plane. This is because for any vector that is orthogonal to the plane, you can scale it to any length and it will still be orthogonal.

Why is finding a nonzero vector orthogonal to a plane important?

Finding a nonzero vector orthogonal to a plane is important in various mathematical and scientific applications, such as in geometry, physics, and engineering. It allows us to determine the direction and orientation of a plane, and is also useful in solving systems of equations and calculating distances between objects in space.

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