Scattering Cross-section Problems in Shankar 19.3.2 and 19.3.3?

In summary, the conversation involved discussing two problems from Shankar, 19.3.2 and 19.3.3, which involve spherically symmetric potentials. The first problem involves integrating a function with the given potential and the second problem involves finding the derivative of a function with the given potential. The conversation also included hints for solving the second problem, which was described as a tough problem without the use of Mathematica.
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Homework Statement


Problems are Shankar 19.3.2 and 19.3.3 with spherically symmetric potentials V(r)=-V[tex]_{0}(r_{0}-r)\theta[/tex] and V(r)=V[tex]_{0}exp(-r_{2}/r^{0}_{2}^{})[/tex]


Homework Equations


[tex]
f\left( \theta \right) = - \frac{{2\mu }}{{\hbar ^2 }}\int\limits_{r_0 }^r {\frac{{\sin qr'}}{q}V\left( {r'} \right)r'dr'}
[/tex]
and
[tex]
\frac{{d\sigma }}{{d\Omega }} = \left| {f\left( \theta \right)} \right|^2
[/tex]



The Attempt at a Solution


Don't I just substitute the potentials for V(r) and integrate? The example in Shankar seemed to do that successfully for the Yukawa potential. What am I missing?
 
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Have you tried it?
 
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Yes, I did try. Shankar gives the answer to the first one:
[tex]\frac{d\sigma}{d\Omega}= 4r_0^2 \left( {\frac{{\mu V_0 r_0^2 }}{{\hbar ^2 }}} \right)^2 \frac{{\left( {\sin qr_0 - qr_0 \cos qr_0 } \right)^2 }}{{\left( {qr_0 } \right)^6 }}$[/tex]


Questions that arise from this:
What happened to [tex]\theta[/tex]?
What are the appropriate limits of integration - r[tex]_{0}[/tex] to [tex]\infty[/tex]?
 
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why to study the structure of nuclear scattering is often used as Compton scattering without using the other?
 
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I was just working through Shankar 19.3.3 and it's seriously a tough problem (if you don't use mathematica.) I thought it might be nice to put my hints on here.

For finding ∂σ/∂Ω, I used the following tricks (in the order listed):

1. Get rid of the r in the integrand by saying r sin(qr) = ∂/∂q[cos(qr)]

2. Write the cos as the sum of exponentials

3. Combine the two exponential integrals

4. Complete the square for the exponential integral

5. Change variables to turn it into a gaussian integral

And then to find σ

6. Use shankar's hint to change the integral over q into an integral over cosθ
I think it officially qualifies as a "tricky" problem.

13.3.2 just requires you to evaluate a limit using L'Hopital's rule--it's not nearly as challenging.
 
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What is scattering cross-section?

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