Seesaw mech, CP violation, leptogenesis, lept/bary asymmetry

In summary, the matter-antimatter imbalance in the universe can be explained by CP violation in neutrino oscillations and a process called leptogenesis. The amount of lepton asymmetry produced is related to the size of the PMNS delta parameter, but this parameter does not play a direct role in the generation of lepton asymmetry. The seesaw mechanism is central in leptogenesis and involves the introduction of right-handed neutrinos. There are different types of seesaw models, such as type-I and type-II, which involve heavy states that decay out of equilibrium and produce lepton asymmetry. Measurements of the PMNS delta parameter in oscillation experiments can help establish CP violation in the lepton sector and provide evidence for leptogenesis. There
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I'm trying to get my story straight on explaining the universe's matter-antimatter imbalance.

So far I understand CP violation in neutrino oscillations (PMNS [itex]\delta[/itex] parameter). And I think I'm right in saying that then a 'leptogenesis' process generates an excess of leptons over antileptons? The amount of which is related to the size of [itex]\delta[/itex]? And then some 'sphaleron' process converts the extra leptons to baryons, with a corresponding excess over antibaryons?

So first of all I'd like to know if what I've wrote above is roughly correct. Then the next thing I'm wondering is, I'm under the impression that the seesaw mechanism is involved somewhere. I understand how that mechanism itself works but I don't quite get where it fits in. Is it just to do with introducing a right-handed neutrino? And that [itex]\nu_{R}[/itex] slots into this picture somewhere?
 
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The amount of lepton asymmetry produced in leptogenesis does not depend on the PMNS phase in the canonical seesaw. Instead, it depends on CP-phases available only at higher energies (this can be shown by the introduction of the Casas-Ibarra parametrisation).

The seesaw model is central in leptogenesis as the lepton asymmetry is generated by out-of-equilibrium decays of heavy states, the right-handed neutrino in the case of the type-I seesaw.
 
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Orodruin said:
The amount of lepton asymmetry produced in leptogenesis does not depend on the PMNS phase in the canonical seesaw. Instead, it depends on CP-phases available only at higher energies (this can be shown by the introduction of the Casas-Ibarra parametrisation).

The seesaw model is central in leptogenesis as the lepton asymmetry is generated by out-of-equilibrium decays of heavy states, the right-handed neutrino in the case of the type-I seesaw.

Ok, so in the seesaw you have [itex]N = \nu_{R} + \nu_{R}^{C}[/itex] and apparently we get leptogenesis through [itex]N \rightarrow L_{\alpha} \hspace{1 mm} H[/itex] or [itex]N \rightarrow \overline{L}_{\alpha} \hspace{1 mm} \overline{H}[/itex]? So we need a right-handed neutrino mass at least big enough to create a Higgs and a lepton mass. Which the seesaw happens to need also. Fair enough.

And also there'll be a lepton-antilepton asymmetry if there is any difference between decay rates [itex]\Gamma(N_{i} \rightarrow L_{\alpha} \hspace{1 mm} H), \hspace{2 mm}\Gamma(N_{i} \rightarrow \overline{L}_{\alpha} \hspace{1mm} \overline{H})[/itex], given for each flavour [itex]\alpha[/itex] by a non-zero [itex]\epsilon_{\alpha}[/itex]:
[tex]\epsilon_{\alpha} = \frac{\Gamma(N_{i} \rightarrow L_{\alpha} \hspace{1 mm} H) - \Gamma(N_{i} \rightarrow \overline{L}_{\alpha} \hspace{1mm} \overline{H})}{\Gamma(N_{i} \rightarrow L_{\alpha} \hspace{1 mm} H) + \Gamma(N_{i} \rightarrow \overline{L}_{\alpha} \hspace{1mm} \overline{H})}[/tex]

And this can supposedly be written in terms of PMNS matrix Uas follows:
[tex]
\epsilon_{\alpha} = \frac{-3 M_{1}}{16 \pi v^{2}} \frac{Im(\sum_{\beta \rho} m_{\beta}^{1/2} m_{\rho}^{3/2} U_{\alpha \beta}^{*} U_{\alpha \rho} U_{1 \beta} U_{1 \rho}) }{ \sum_{\beta} m_{\beta} |R_{1 \beta}|^{2}}.
[/tex]

But you say this imaginary part of [itex]U_{\alpha \beta}^{*} U_{\alpha \rho} U_{1 \beta} U_{1 \rho} [/itex] is not anything to do with [itex]\delta[/itex] but rather some other phase? At this point I have to wonder what the [itex]\delta[/itex] that can be measured in neutrino oscillation experiments has to do with all this?

I must be misunderstanding you given that I've seen this plot of the ([itex]\delta[/itex]-dependent l believe?) Jarlskog parameter vs. the baryon asymmetry:
Jarlskog_parameter_vs_log10_baryon_asymmetry.png
 
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The matrix that appears in the expression for the asymmetry is not the PMNS matrix, it is the neutrino Yukawa couplings.

Edit: Note that this is true in the canonical seesaw. There are some variants of the seesaw and leptogenesis where you might be able to influence it through the low energy CP phase.
 
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Orodruin said:
The matrix that appears in the expression for the asymmetry is not the PMNS matrix, it is the neutrino Yukawa couplings.

Edit: Note that this is true in the canonical seesaw. There are some variants of the seesaw and leptogenesis where you might be able to influence it through the low energy CP phase.

Ahhhh right. It's a different matrix. OK. I've often read measuring [itex]\delta[/itex] is the ultimate goal of oscillation studies to understand matter/antimatter asymmetry. So I need to find out about these 'variants'. I've only heard of a type-1 and type-2 seesaw, and I think I briefly saw that the type-2 seesaw involves Higgs triplets... which only appear in beyond-Standard Model theories? More digging required it seems...
 
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Also right-handed neutrinos do not appear in the standard model, so whatever seesaw you select, it is BSM physics. The point here is that within these seesaws there are some alternatives which give you things like flavoured leptogenesis, which could change the behaviour of leptogenesis.

The target of oscillation experiments to measure ##\delta## is mainly to find CP-violation also in the lepton sector. Finding it would also establish that the lepton sector does violate CP and therefore to some extent give fuel to the idea of leptogenesis even if the phase is not directly related.

The third type of seesaw (seesaw type-III) uses fermion SU(2) triplets in place of the right-handed neutrinos. The neutral component of the triplets would essentially work as the right-handed neutrino, but you will have additional constraints coming from the charged components.
 
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Orodruin said:
The matrix that appears in the expression for the asymmetry is not the PMNS matrix, it is the neutrino Yukawa couplings.

Edit: Note that this is true in the canonical seesaw. There are some variants of the seesaw and leptogenesis where you might be able to influence it through the low energy CP phase.

But the PMNS matrix is the matrix that diagonalizes the mass matrix, which depends explicitly on the Yukawas. So in principle, one could determine the combination of Yukawas (and Majorana masses) that maps to ##\delta##. There is an expression in the Fukugita-Yanagida paper where they express the net lepton production, in a suitable limit, as directly proportional to ##\delta##. In a general case, the relationship between the PMNS matrix and Yukawas would probably be too complicated to be illuminating, but they are not independent.
 
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Orodruin said:
Also right-handed neutrinos do not appear in the standard model, so whatever seesaw you select, it is BSM physics.
Ahh yes, very true.

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The point here is that within these seesaws there are some alternatives which give you things like flavoured leptogenesis, which could change the behaviour of leptogenesis.

The target of oscillation experiments to measure ##\delta## is mainly to find CP-violation also in the lepton sector. Finding it would also establish that the lepton sector does violate CP and therefore to some extent give fuel to the idea of leptogenesis even if the phase is not directly related.

OK. I assumed there would have to be some direct relationship. I'm hoping to find out a bit about how they might possibly be directly related though. I've found some slides that contain the following:

Yukawa_and_PMNS_relationship.png


so I'll be satisfied with finding something that gets me to the point of that blue box.
 
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But the PMNS matrix is the matrix that diagonalizes the mass matrix, which depends explicitly on the Yukawas. So in principle, one could determine the combination of Yukawas (and Majorana masses) that maps to ##\delta##. There is an expression in the Fukugita-Yanagida paper where they express the net lepton production, in a suitable limit, as directly proportional to ##\delta##. In a general case, the relationship between the PMNS matrix and Yukawas would probably be too complicated to be illuminating, but they are not independent.

In the canonical seesaw limit, the combination of the Yukawas which combine to ##\delta## is independent of the combination which produces the lepton asymmetry. Seen from the Casas-Ibarra parametrisation, ##vY = i U \sqrt{m} O \sqrt{M}##, where ##U## is the PMNS matrix, ##m## the diagonalised light neutrino mass matrix, ##O## a complex orthogonal matrix, and ##M## the diagonalised right-handed neutrino matrix, the combination of Yukawas entering the lepton asymmetry is ##Y^\dagger Y##, implying that ##U## is irrelevant and only the high-energy parameters remain. For more discussion, see eg http://inspirehep.net/search?p=find+eprint+0902.2469

Edit: Note that I have used the opposite convention of the Yukawas compared to the slides Anchovy found.
 
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Orodruin said:
In the canonical seesaw limit, the combination of the Yukawas which combine to ##\delta## is independent of the combination which produces the lepton asymmetry. Seen from the Casas-Ibarra parametrisation, ##vY = i U \sqrt{m} O \sqrt{M}##, where ##U## is the PMNS matrix, ##m## the diagonalised light neutrino mass matrix, ##O## a complex orthogonal matrix, and ##M## the diagonalised right-handed neutrino matrix, the combination of Yukawas entering the lepton asymmetry is ##Y^\dagger Y##, implying that ##U## is irrelevant and only the high-energy parameters remain. For more discussion, see eg http://inspirehep.net/search?p=find+eprint+0902.2469

Edit: Note that I have used the opposite convention of the Yukawas compared to the slides Anchovy found.

Thanks for the explanation and reference; they make the picture very clear.
 

FAQ: Seesaw mech, CP violation, leptogenesis, lept/bary asymmetry

1. What is a seesaw mechanism and how does it relate to CP violation?

The seesaw mechanism is a theoretical framework used to explain the observed smallness of neutrino masses. It proposes the existence of heavy right-handed neutrinos, whose mass is much larger than the mass of the left-handed neutrinos. This results in a seesaw effect, where the mass of the light neutrinos is much smaller than the mass of the heavy neutrinos. This mechanism also allows for the violation of CP symmetry, which is the property of particles and their antiparticles behaving differently under certain transformations. CP violation is necessary to explain the matter-antimatter asymmetry in the universe.

2. What is leptogenesis and how does it relate to lept/baryon asymmetry?

Leptogenesis is a proposed mechanism that can generate the observed matter-antimatter asymmetry in the universe. It suggests that in the early universe, the decay of heavy right-handed neutrinos could have produced a slight excess of leptons (particles such as electrons and neutrinos) over antileptons. As the universe cooled and expanded, this excess of leptons could have been converted into an excess of baryons (particles such as protons and neutrons) through the process of baryogenesis. This results in the observed lept/baryon asymmetry.

3. What is the difference between leptonic and baryonic asymmetry?

Leptonic asymmetry refers to the imbalance between the number of leptons (particles such as electrons and neutrinos) and antileptons in the universe. Baryonic asymmetry, on the other hand, refers to the imbalance between the number of baryons (particles such as protons and neutrons) and antibaryons. The observed matter-antimatter asymmetry in the universe is a combination of both leptonic and baryonic asymmetry.

4. Are there any experimental evidence for leptogenesis?

At this time, there is no direct experimental evidence for leptogenesis. However, the predictions of leptogenesis can be tested indirectly through experiments such as neutrino oscillation and precision measurements of CP violation in particle physics. These experiments can provide important clues about the underlying mechanisms that generate the observed matter-antimatter asymmetry in the universe.

5. How does the lept/baryon asymmetry affect our understanding of the early universe?

The lept/baryon asymmetry is an important piece of evidence that helps us understand the conditions of the early universe. It tells us that the universe was not in a state of perfect symmetry and that there were processes at work that favored the production of matter over antimatter. This information is crucial for developing theories and models that explain the evolution of the universe from its early stages to the present day.

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