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Dummit and Foote in Section 13.5 on separable extensions make some remarks about separable polynomials that I do not quite follow. The remarks follow Corollary 34 and its proof ...
Corollary 34, its proof and the remarks read as follows:
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In the above text by D&F, in the remarks after the proof we read:
" ... in characteristic \(\displaystyle p\) the derivative of any power \(\displaystyle x^{pm}\) of \(\displaystyle x^p\) is identically \(\displaystyle 0\):
\(\displaystyle D_x( x^{pm} ) = pm x^{pm - 1 } = 0 \)
so it is possible for the degree of the derivative to decrease by more than \(\displaystyle 1\).
If the derivative \(\displaystyle D_x p(x)\) of the irreducible polynomial \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is non-zero, however, , then just as before we conclude that \(\displaystyle p(x)\) must be separable. ... ... "My questions are as follows:Question 1
I am assuming that when the degree of the derivative decreases by more than \(\displaystyle 1, p(x)\) is still relatively prime to \(\displaystyle D_x p(x)\) and so \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is separable ... is that the correct reasoning here ...Question 2
In stating that "if the derivative \(\displaystyle D_x p(x)\) of the irreducible polynomial \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is non-zero, however, , then just as before we conclude that \(\displaystyle p(x)\) must be separable". D&F are implying that if \(\displaystyle D_x p(x) = 0\) then \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is not separable (or not necessarily separable) ... is this the case ... if it is the case, why/how is this true ...
Hope that someone can help ...
Peter
Corollary 34, its proof and the remarks read as follows:
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https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/6639
In the above text by D&F, in the remarks after the proof we read:
" ... in characteristic \(\displaystyle p\) the derivative of any power \(\displaystyle x^{pm}\) of \(\displaystyle x^p\) is identically \(\displaystyle 0\):
\(\displaystyle D_x( x^{pm} ) = pm x^{pm - 1 } = 0 \)
so it is possible for the degree of the derivative to decrease by more than \(\displaystyle 1\).
If the derivative \(\displaystyle D_x p(x)\) of the irreducible polynomial \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is non-zero, however, , then just as before we conclude that \(\displaystyle p(x)\) must be separable. ... ... "My questions are as follows:Question 1
I am assuming that when the degree of the derivative decreases by more than \(\displaystyle 1, p(x)\) is still relatively prime to \(\displaystyle D_x p(x)\) and so \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is separable ... is that the correct reasoning here ...Question 2
In stating that "if the derivative \(\displaystyle D_x p(x)\) of the irreducible polynomial \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is non-zero, however, , then just as before we conclude that \(\displaystyle p(x)\) must be separable". D&F are implying that if \(\displaystyle D_x p(x) = 0\) then \(\displaystyle p(x)\) is not separable (or not necessarily separable) ... is this the case ... if it is the case, why/how is this true ...
Hope that someone can help ...
Peter