Set Theory : Discrete Mathematics

In summary, the conversation discusses various sets and their elements, as well as statements about the sets and their relationships. It is determined that statement 1 is false, statement 2 is true, and statement 3 is false. The concept of subsets and elements of a set is also clarified.
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Supierreious
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Homework Statement



The Question data is as follows :

Consider the following sets, where U represents a universal set :

U = {1, 2, 3, 4, ∅, {1}}
A = {1, 3}
B = {{1}, 1}
C = {2 , 4}
D = { ∅ , 1, 2 )


Homework Equations



Which one of the following statements is true ?

1. The cardinality of U, ie |U| = |A| + |B| + |C| + |D|
2. {} ⊆ U
3. {∅, {1}} ∈ U
4. U union B = B



The Attempt at a Solution



1. So on this one I attempted, it is clear that this is not the case, and this statement is false, due to the fact that the cardinality indicates the amount of elements included in the set. The set for U , and the other sets' cardinality differ. If you would like me to illustrate what I have found, let me know , I don't mind adding it here.

2. This to my knowledge is true. If {} is an empty set, it does not have any element that is not in U, and is thus possible to 'reside' as a subset, in U. To my knowledge this is then true.

3. To my knowledge, this one is also true. The problem I have with this question , is that only one can be true, so either 2 or 3 is true. A set can be an element of another set, like in this case ( I read up on a couple of other articles on this website - if I am wrong with this one, please point it out to me, so that I can assess my understanding of this subject).

4. The union of U and B, will be the composition of all the elements in U, as well as the elements in B, without any duplication of elements. In a Venn diagram this will thus be the 2 circles, together, with the whole field ( of both circles) coloured in. So the sets together will be more than just the set B, and thus be incorrect.




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Background from me : I was a LAW student, and changed to BSc Computer Science, and I am studying through Unisa in South Africa. This is part of one of my assignments for a subject COS1501, and the assignment is due next month, so I am not trying to catch up time by submitting my inquiry to you to answer, this is well in advance and my understanding is lacking , which I require assistance with.

Your advise, even if you point me in the right direction, will be highly appreciated.
 
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I think you are ok on all of those. And I think more than one of them is correct.
 
  • #3
(3) is false. While it is true that [itex]\{1,\{1\}\}[/itex] is a subset of U, it is not an element of U.
 
  • #4
micromass said:
(3) is false. While it is true that [itex]\{1,\{1\}\}[/itex] is a subset of U, it is not an element of U.

Dang it. I'm so sloppy these days. Thanks, micromass.
 
  • #5
Dick , Micromass, you guys are awesome!

So, if I understand correctly, a set cannot be referred to as an element of a full set? I am using the term a 'full set' due to lack of a better word for 'U' - the set with all the elements.

So :

A = {1,2,3}
a) this set A, has elements , 1 , and 2 , and 3.

B = {1, 2, {3,4}}
a) This set B, has element 1 , and element 2, however the 'element {3,4} is not referred to as an element, even though it is in the set, and referred to as a sub set of B, so in actual fact to make it practical it can be written :B = {1, 2}
{3, 4) ⊆ B

And this means that there is a sub set, and not an Element. This will also then be a proper subset, since not all the elements are present. Due to a subset being either a copy of the set, or alternatively a proper subset, it will then be correct to write it either way, as ⊆ or as '⊆ without the bottom line'.If my understanding of the above is correct, please let me know, then I am happy.Will it then be possible that anything inside a curly bracket / brace, can be referred to as an element ? To me , if the elements are in a curly bracket / brace, it cannot be referred to as an element.

{} cannot be ∈ of A
{} can be the set, or subset, of a set A.

Thanks again guys, I don't know what I should be adding in the discussion to make it as easy as possible to understand, however if you find that I am not adding something , please let me know, and I will add it. ( It is 05:30 AM in South Africa, so I am going to take a quick nap).
 
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Supierreious said:
Dick , Micromass, you guys are awesome!

So, if I understand correctly, a set cannot be referred to as an element of a full set? I am using the term a 'full set' due to lack of a better word for 'U' - the set with all the elements.

So :

A = {1,2,3}
a) this set A, has elements , 1 , and 2 , and 3.
Yes, that is correct.

B = {1, 2, {3,4}}
a) This set B, has element 1 , and element 2, however the 'element {3,4} is not referred to as an element, even though it is in the set, and referred to as a sub set of B, so in actual fact to make it practical it can be written :
No, this is wrong. B has three elements, 1, 2, and {3, 4}. {3, 4} definitely is an element of B, NOT a subset. {1, 2} would be a subset of B because its elements, 1 and 2 are also elements of B. The elements of {3, 4}, 3 and 4, are NOT elements of B.

B = {1, 2}
{3, 4) ⊆ B
Again this is wrong. You are told to begin with that B= {1, 2, {3, 4}} so it cannot be equal to {1, 2}. And, if B were defined as {1, 2} then it would NOT be the case that {3,4} ⊆ B because, in this case, 3 and 4 are NOT elements of B.

And this means that there is a sub set, and not an Element. This will also then be a proper subset, since not all the elements are present. Due to a subset being either a copy of the set, or alternatively a proper subset, it will then be correct to write it either way, as ⊆ or as '⊆ without the bottom line'.
Once more, no. You are making this more complicated than it should be. The notation
"B= {1, 2, {3, 4}}" means exactly what it says- B has three elements, 1, 2, and the set {3, 4}.
If my understanding of the above is correct, please let me know, then I am happy.
Sorry, but it is not correct.
Will it then be possible that anything inside a curly bracket / brace, can be referred to as an element ? To me , if the elements are in a curly bracket / brace, it cannot be referred to as an element.
Everything inside "curly braces" is an element of a set. Sets themselves can be a member of a set.

{} cannot be ∈ of A
{} can be the set, or subset, of a set A.
{} can be an element of a set, if you define the set that way. In fact, your original post you defined U = {1, 2, 3, 4, ∅, {1}}. ∅ is just another notation for {}, the empty set and certainly is an element of this set. It also happens to be a subset- the empty set is a subset of any set.

Thanks again guys, I don't know what I should be adding in the discussion to make it as easy as possible to understand, however if you find that I am not adding something , please let me know, and I will add it. ( It is 05:30 AM in South Africa, so I am going to take a quick nap).
Unfortunately, most of what you think you know here is incorrect. I recommend you review "element' and "subset".
 
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HallsofIvy -I just want to say that I appreciate your feedback, so so much. I will be looking into this feedback.

This makes sense, and the proof is in the pudding , so I will be doing a couple of exercises again to familiarise me with this work.

Thanks again!
 

Related to Set Theory : Discrete Mathematics

1. What is Set Theory?

Set Theory is a branch of mathematics that deals with the study of sets, which are collections of objects. It is used to analyze and describe relationships between different sets and their elements.

2. What are the basic concepts of Set Theory?

The basic concepts of Set Theory include sets, elements, subsets, universal set, and operations on sets such as union, intersection, and complement. Sets are denoted by curly braces { } and contain distinct objects called elements. A subset is a set that contains all the elements of another set. The universal set is the set of all possible elements under consideration. Operations on sets involve combining or comparing sets to create new sets.

3. How is Set Theory applied in other fields?

Set Theory has various applications in other fields such as computer science, linguistics, and philosophy. In computer science, it is used to represent data structures and analyze algorithms. In linguistics, it is used to analyze the structure of language. In philosophy, it is used to study the foundations of mathematics and logic.

4. What is the difference between finite and infinite sets?

A finite set is a set that has a limited or countable number of elements, whereas an infinite set has an uncountable number of elements. For example, the set of all even numbers is infinite, while the set of all letters in the English alphabet is finite.

5. What is the significance of Set Theory in mathematics?

Set Theory is considered the foundation of mathematics as it provides a rigorous and logical framework for understanding the concepts of sets, numbers, and mathematical structures. It also helps in solving problems related to real-world situations by providing a systematic approach to organizing and analyzing data.

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