SHM - Pendulum and Mass on a spring

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In summary, the conversation discusses a mathematical equation involving the periods of a pendulum and a spring mass system. The equation is simplified and the concept of using different symbols for changed quantities is suggested. It is also recommended to take ratios to simplify the equation further.
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The time period of oscillation of a simple pendulum of length l is the same as the time period of oscillation of a mass M attached to a vertical spring. The length and mass are then changed. Which row, A to D (see attachment), in the table would give a simple pendulum with a time period twice that of the spring oscillations?
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T = 2π√(l/g): Mass on a pendulum
T = 2π√(m/k): Mass on a spring
I have only be able to write something like:

2x(2π√(l/g)) = 2π√(m/k)
2π is a constant therefore; 2x(√(l/g)) = √(m/k)
You could square both sides; 2^2x(l/g) = (m/k)

But now I'm lost as to how to proceed.

PS- Book answer is B

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Shaye said:
2x(2π√(l/g)) = 2π√(m/k)
Does this look right to you? It says
2*(Pendulum period) = (Spring mass period)
If a father's age is twice that of his son's age, would you write
2*(father' age) = (son's age) ?

Aside from that, I would recommend that you write the new periods using different symbols for the changed length and mass and then take ratios for the periods cancelling quantities that remain unchanged.
 
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Related to SHM - Pendulum and Mass on a spring

What is Simple Harmonic Motion (SHM)?

Simple Harmonic Motion (SHM) is a type of periodic motion where the restoring force is directly proportional to the displacement from the equilibrium position and acts in the direction opposite to that displacement. It is characterized by sinusoidal oscillations and is commonly observed in systems like pendulums and mass-spring systems.

How does a pendulum exhibit SHM?

A pendulum exhibits SHM when it is displaced from its equilibrium position and released. The restoring force due to gravity causes it to oscillate back and forth around the equilibrium position. For small angles of displacement (typically less than 15 degrees), the motion approximates SHM, as the restoring force is nearly proportional to the displacement.

What factors affect the period of a pendulum?

The period of a pendulum, which is the time it takes for one complete cycle of oscillation, depends primarily on the length of the pendulum and the acceleration due to gravity. The period is given by the formula \( T = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{L}{g}} \), where \( T \) is the period, \( L \) is the length of the pendulum, and \( g \) is the acceleration due to gravity. The mass of the pendulum bob and the amplitude of the swing (for small angles) do not significantly affect the period.

How does a mass on a spring exhibit SHM?

A mass attached to a spring exhibits SHM when it is displaced from its equilibrium position and released. The restoring force is provided by the spring, which follows Hooke's Law: \( F = -kx \), where \( F \) is the restoring force, \( k \) is the spring constant, and \( x \) is the displacement. This force causes the mass to oscillate back and forth around the equilibrium position in a sinusoidal manner.

What factors affect the period of a mass-spring system?

The period of a mass-spring system depends on the mass of the object and the spring constant. The period is given by the formula \( T = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{m}{k}} \), where \( T \) is the period, \( m \) is the mass, and \( k \) is the spring constant. Unlike a pendulum, the period of a mass-spring system is independent of the amplitude of oscillation.

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