Should Equation (30) be Revised to '2πfn=2nc'π/L'?

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In summary, the conversation is about the equation "2πfn=2nπ/L" and whether it should be "2πfn=2nc'π/L" instead. The question is whether fn is a spatial or temporal frequency, and what the values of n and L represent. There is also a suggestion to define the quantities in the equation and an explanation of the context, which involves considering photon modes in a transmission line. There is also a comment about the dimensions of frequency and the possibility of the first equation being incorrect.
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Just above equation (30), it says "2πfn=2nπ/L". Should it be "2πfn=2nc'π/L" instead?
 
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vaatmoly said:
Just above equation (30), it says "2πfn=2nπ/L". Should it be "2πfn=2nc'π/L" instead?
Is fn a spatial or a temporal frequency?
What is n and L?
Maybe you could make pdf of the section, so one can see the context.
 
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You have to get the book and read it. It's part of the derivation of Johnson noise. The derivation is several pages long.
 
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vaatmoly said:
You have to get the book and read it. It's part of the derivation of Johnson noise. The derivation is several pages long.
Maybe you could just define the quantities in the equation?
 
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Yes, sure.
We are considering photon modes in a transmission line(an electromagnetic system in one dimension). The transmission line has 2 photon modes(one propagating in each direction) of frequency "2πfn=2nπ/L" where L is the transmission line length, c' is the propagation velocity on the line, n is the mode number
 
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vaatmoly said:
Yes, sure.
We are considering photon modes in a transmission line(an electromagnetic system in one dimension). The transmission line has 2 photon modes(one propagating in each direction) of frequency "2πfn=2nπ/L" where L is the transmission line length, c' is the propagation velocity on the line, n is the mode number
Then it's pretty clear. The frequency has dimension 1/time so you need the c in the equation to get the dimensions right.
The 2nd equation could be right, the 1st can't be.
 

FAQ: Should Equation (30) be Revised to '2πfn=2nc'π/L'?

What is the significance of Equation (30)?

Equation (30) is a mathematical formula used to calculate the frequency of a wave based on its wavelength and the speed of the wave. It is commonly used in physics and engineering to analyze and predict wave behavior.

Why is there a proposal to revise Equation (30)?

The proposal to revise Equation (30) is based on new research and evidence that suggests the current equation may not accurately represent the relationship between frequency, wavelength, and speed. The revision aims to improve the accuracy and applicability of the equation.

What is the difference between the current and proposed versions of Equation (30)?

The current version of Equation (30) is '2πf = 2nπ/L', where f represents frequency, n represents the number of nodes in the wave, and L represents the wavelength. The proposed revision is '2πfn = 2ncπ/L', where c represents the speed of the wave. This revision takes into account the speed of the wave, which was not included in the original equation.

How will the revised equation impact calculations and experiments?

If the proposed revision is accepted, it may lead to more accurate calculations and predictions of wave behavior. This could have a significant impact on various fields that rely on wave analysis, such as acoustics, optics, and telecommunications. However, further research and testing will be needed to fully understand the implications of the revised equation.

What is the current status of the proposal to revise Equation (30)?

The proposal to revise Equation (30) is still in the early stages and has not been widely accepted or implemented yet. It is currently being discussed and evaluated by experts in the field, and further research and experimentation may be needed before a decision is made. It is important to note that scientific theories and equations are constantly evolving and being refined as new information and evidence is discovered.

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