Should Pizza Sauce Count as a Vegetable in School Lunches?

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The discussion highlights the government's tendency to overlook the interests of smaller lobbying groups, specifically the tomato and sodium lobbies, which are now gaining attention in nutritional guidelines. The article referenced discusses a bill that allows tomato paste on pizzas to be classified as a vegetable, sparking debate about the nutritional validity of this classification. Some participants question whether pizza sauce should be excluded from vegetable counts, arguing that if it contains a serving of vegetables, it could be considered fair. Additionally, there are concerns about the cost of healthier foods and whether that justifies their exclusion from school lunches, with some asserting that school cafeterias should not bear the sole responsibility for nutritional guidance for children and their families. Overall, the conversation reflects a mix of skepticism and a recognition that sometimes the system can work in favor of smaller interests.
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This points out how our government usually just ignores the interest of the little guy. Luckily, in this uplifting story, we see that the small, usually ignored tomato and sodium lobbies are finally having their interests looked after. Too long have they be discriminated against in the recommendations of nutritionists. Sometimes, the system does work...


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/tomato-sauce-pizza-a-vegetable-congress-gop-healthier-school-lunches-expensive-article-1.978339


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This points out how our government usually just ignores the interest of the little guy. Luckily, in this uplifting story, we see that the small, usually ignored tomato and sodium lobbies are finally having their interests looked after. Too long have they be discriminated against in the recommendations of nutritionists. Sometimes, the system does work...


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/tomato-sauce-pizza-a-vegetable-congress-gop-healthier-school-lunches-expensive-article-1.978339


:rolleyes:

Yeah, John Stewart had a piece on this last night. Disgusting.
 
Well, just playing Devil's Advocate, is there anything about pizza sauce that should exclude it from being counted (nutritionally speaking) as a vegetable? Not that "sauce" is a vegetable, but if it contains one serving of vegetables then it seems fair to me.

Also, the article only says "tomato paste" is counted. From the article provided:
The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable, as it is now.

However, in the US, tomato paste does not usually contain salt (granted there is a provision allowing for it):
In the USA, tomato paste is concentrated tomato solids (no seeds or skin) and usually no added sugars or seasonings, with a standard of identity (see 21 CFR 155.191).
(2) Optional ingredients. One or any
combination of two or more of the following safe and suitable ingredients
may be used in the foods:
(i) Salt (sodium chloride formed during acid neutralization shall be considered added salt).
(ii) Lemon juice, concentrated lemon
juice, or organic acids.
(iii) Sodium bicarbonate.
(iv) Water, as provided for in paragraph (a)(1) of this section.
(v) Spices.
(vi) Flavoring.
(Source: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2010/aprqtr/pdf/21cfr155.191.pdf)

Further, as to the point that healthier foods are more expensive and therefore cost prohibitive, I tend to disagree, but if you accept that as a fact, then isn't that sufficient reason not to include them in school lunches? As it is a "school lunch" is ridiculously subsidized. I ate my share of them all the way from elementary school to high school. We always had access to a calendar that told us what would be available to eat each day and were never "surprised" by french fries or pizzas. On rare occasions I would ask my mom for a sandwich in lieu of "mystery meat" day... or my mom might step in and provide snacks or an apple to supplement my meal.

I think it's really too much to ask our school cafeterias to take over the role of nutritional counsel for the children AND parents of America.
 
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