Show that B is not a topology on R

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In summary: Yes. What if you take a little bit less of the ##[n,a)##?? Can you form some half-open interval?Yes. If I take a little less than ##[n,a)##, I can form a half-open interval.
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Let B be the family of subsets of [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] consisting of [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] and the subsets [n,a) := {[itex]r \in \mathbb{R} : n \leq r < a[/itex]} with [itex]n \in \mathbb{Z}[/itex], a [itex]\in \mathbb{R}[/itex] Show that B is not a topology on [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]


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If B were a topology then we would need:
[itex]\emptyset[/itex]and [itex]\mathbb{R} \in[/itex] B (1), the arbitrary union of any opens in B to be in B (2) and any finite union of opens in B to be in B (3). Now the first two conditions (1), (2), seem to be valid so if B is not a topology on [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] then certainly condition (3) would have to fail. My question is, does condition (3) indeed fail and if it does, how can I show this?

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Tomath said:

Homework Statement


Let B be the family of subsets of [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] consisting of [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] and the subsets [n,a) := {[itex]r \in \mathbb{R} : n \leq r < a[/itex]} with [itex]n \in \mathbb{Z}[/itex], a [itex]\in \mathbb{R}[/itex] Show that B is not a topology on [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]


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The Attempt at a Solution


If B were a topology then we would need:
[itex]\emptyset[/itex]and [itex]\mathbb{R} \in[/itex] B (1), the arbitrary union of any opens in B to be in B (2) and any finite union of opens in B to be in B (3). Now the first two conditions (1), (2), seem to be valid so if B is not a topology on [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] then certainly condition (3) would have to fail. My question is, does condition (3) indeed fail and if it does, how can I show this?

Thanks in advance

What is the union of all of the [n,a)?
 
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Dick said:
What is the union of all of the [n,a)?

If I am not mistaken the union of all of the [n,a) is [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]
 
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Tomath said:
If I am not mistaken the union of all of the [n,a) is [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]

Yes. What if you take a little bit less of the ##[n,a)##?? Can you form some half-open interval?
 
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Tomath said:
If I am not mistaken the union of all of the [n,a) is [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]

No, I don't think it's all of R. a or a+1 isn't in it. Oh, and your definition of topology is a little off. You want finite intersections to be in the topology. Specifying finite unions after you already said arbitrary union would be a little redundant.
 
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FAQ: Show that B is not a topology on R

What is a topology on R?

A topology on R is a collection of subsets of the real numbers that satisfies certain properties. These properties include containing the empty set and the entire set, closed under finite intersections, and closed under arbitrary unions.

How do you show that B is not a topology on R?

To show that B is not a topology on R, we need to demonstrate that it fails to satisfy at least one of the properties of a topology. We can do this by providing a counterexample or showing that one of the properties is not met.

What are some examples of topologies on R?

Examples of topologies on R include the discrete topology, the Euclidean topology, and the lower limit topology. These examples satisfy all the properties of a topology and are commonly used in mathematics and physics.

What is the empty set in a topology on R?

The empty set in a topology on R is a set that contains no elements. It is denoted by the symbol ∅ and is included in every topology as one of the required properties. The empty set is important in topology as it allows for the existence of the null space and the concept of a limit point.

Can B be a topology on R if it fails to satisfy one of the properties?

No, B cannot be a topology on R if it fails to satisfy one of the properties. In order for a collection of subsets to be considered a topology, it must satisfy all the required properties. If even one property is not met, then the collection is not a topology on R.

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