Show the gravitional field is conservative

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of a conservative gravitational field in the context of vector calculus. The conversation mentions a scalar function f and its definition, which involves the use of the distance in cartesian coordinates, specifically the term \sqrt{x^2 + y^2 + z^2}. The question of why the inverse distance is used instead of its square or other definitions is also brought up, with the explanation that the inverse distance leads to the correct force calculation.
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In my calculus textbook (section on vector calc) it is showing that the gravitational field is conservative. I followed fine except for the first part, defining the scalar function f.

Showing the field is conservative went something like this:

[itex]f(x,y,z) = MM'G/\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}[/itex]
[itex]\nabla{f(x,y,z)} = \partial{f}/\partial{x}\hat{i}+\partial{f}/\partial{y}\hat{j}+\partial{f}/\partial{z}\hat{k}[/itex]
[itex] = -MM'G/(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{3/2}\hat{i} + -MM'G/(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{3/2}\hat{j} + -MM'G/(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{3/2}\hat{k}[/itex]
= F(x, y, z)

Why, when defining the scalar function f is the [itex] \sqrt{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} [/itex] used?
 
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It is the distance in cartesian coordinates.
Why the inverse distance and not its square or something else? Well, the inverse distance leads to the right force, other definitions do not.
 

Related to Show the gravitional field is conservative

1. What does it mean for a gravitational field to be conservative?

A conservative gravitational field is one in which the work done by or against the field to move an object between two points is independent of the path taken. This means that the gravitational force is always conservative, and the total energy of an object remains constant as it moves through the field.

2. How can we mathematically show that the gravitational field is conservative?

To show that the gravitational field is conservative, we can use the definition of conservative fields, which states that the curl of the field must be equal to zero. In other words, the gravitational field must have a curl of zero for it to be considered conservative. This can be mathematically proven using vector calculus and the inverse-square law of gravity.

3. What is the significance of a conservative gravitational field?

A conservative gravitational field has important implications in physics. It allows for the conservation of energy, which is a fundamental principle in the universe. It also allows for the use of potential energy to describe the state of a system in the field, making it easier to predict and understand the behavior of objects within the field.

4. Can you provide an example of a non-conservative gravitational field?

One example of a non-conservative gravitational field is a field created by a changing magnetic field. This type of field is non-conservative because the work done by or against the field depends on the path taken by the object. Another example is the gravitational field near a black hole, where the path of an object can greatly affect the work done by gravity.

5. How does the concept of potential energy relate to a conservative gravitational field?

In a conservative gravitational field, the potential energy of an object is directly related to its position in the field. As the object moves through the field, the potential energy changes, but the total energy (kinetic + potential) remains constant. This relationship allows us to use potential energy as a tool to analyze the behavior of objects in the field and make predictions about their motion.

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