MHB Showing the modified Dirichlet function is discontinuous

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The discussion focuses on proving the discontinuity of the modified Dirichlet function, defined as $f(x) = x$ for rational $x$ and $f(x) = 0$ for irrational $x$, at all points $c \neq 0$. Participants explore using the sequential definition of continuity, demonstrating that for any real $c \neq 0$, sequences of rational and irrational numbers can converge to $c$, leading to different limit values of the function. The argument highlights that the limit does not exist, confirming discontinuity. Additionally, a method to establish the $\epsilon_0$ required for the $\epsilon-\delta$ definition is discussed, referencing the approach used in the proof of the regular Dirichlet function. The conversation emphasizes the need to find an appropriate $\epsilon_0$ to complete the proof of discontinuity.
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Show, using the $\epsilon-\delta$ definition of continuity, that the modified Dirichlet function, i.e., $f(x) = x$ if $x$ is rational and $f(x) = 0$ if $x$ is irrational, is discontinuous at all points $c \neq 0$

My attempt:

Is the following argument right (using the sequential definition of continuity?)

That is, consider any real $c \neq 0$, then, for $c\neq 0$, we can find some sequence $(x_n) \subset Q$ and $(y_n) \subset I$ such that $(x_n) \rightarrow c$ and $(y_n) \rightarrow c$ but $f(x_n) \rightarrow c$ and $f(y_n) \rightarrow 0$, thus $\lim_{x \rightarrow c} f(x)$ does not exist and hence is discontinuous at all points besides $0$.
Now how do I prove it using the definition? I.e, I need to show that $\exists$ $\epsilon_0 >0 \ \forall \ \delta >0 \ \exists x \in \mathbb{R}$, $|x-c| < \delta$ and $|f(x) - f(c)| \ge \epsilon_0$. How do I find the $\epsilon_0$?
 
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Usagi said:
Is the following argument right (using the sequential definition of continuity?)

That is, consider any real $c \neq 0$, then, for $c\neq 0$, we can find some sequence $(x_n) \subset Q$ and $(y_n) \subset I$ such that $(x_n) \rightarrow c$ and $(y_n) \rightarrow c$ but $f(x_n) \rightarrow c$ and $f(y_n) \rightarrow 0$, thus $\lim_{x \rightarrow c} f(x)$ does not exist and hence is discontinuous at all points besides $0$.
I agree.

Usagi said:
I.e, I need to show that $\exists$ $\epsilon_0 >0 \ \forall \ \delta >0 \ \exists x \in \mathbb{R}$, $|x-c| < \delta$ and $|f(x) - f(c)| \ge \epsilon_0$. How do I find the $\epsilon_0$?
Hint: In the proof of discontinuity of the regular Dirichlet function $\epsilon$ is chosen as $f(c)/2=1/2$ if $c\in\Bbb Q$ and $f(c')/2=1/2$ if $c\notin\Bbb Q$ and $c'\in\Bbb Q$ is some point close to $c$.
 
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