Silly question about (Galilei) transformations

In summary, the conversation discusses a time and space transformation and how a potential term transforms under this group. The first term is calculated correctly, but there is confusion about the second term. The person realizes that the Jacobian needs to be inverted and the derivative transforms with the inverse of the transformation matrix. The other term becomes zero.
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Hi, I have a silly question concerning the chain rule. Imagine I have a time and space transformation as follows,

[tex]
x^0 \rightarrow x^{'0} = x^0 + \xi^0, \ \ \ x^i \rightarrow x^{'i} = R^i_{\ j}(t)x^j + d^i (t) \ \ \ \ \ \ (1)
[/tex]
where xi^0 is constant, R is an element of SO(3) and d is a vector with arbitrary time dependence. Now I want to calculate how a potential term transforms under this group:

[tex]
\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x^{'i}} = \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x^j}\frac{\partial x^j}{\partial x^{'i}} + \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x^0}\frac{\partial x^0}{\partial x^{'i}}
[/tex]

The first term is OK, but I'm confused about the second,

[tex]
\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x^0}\frac{\partial x^0}{\partial x^{'i}} \,.
[/tex]

I know that for [itex]x^0 = t [/itex],

[tex]
\frac{\partial x^{'i}}{\partial x^0} = \dot{R}^{i}_{\ j}(t)x^j + \dot{d}^i(t)
[/tex]

but should I invert this relation, or should I put [itex]\frac{\partial x^0}{\partial x^{'i}}=0[/itex]? So, how does my potential transform under the group given in (1)?
 
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By the way, this is not the standard Galilei group, but it includes accelerations.
 
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Was it that silly? ;(
 
  • #4
It was indeed silly; I just had to calculate the Jacobian

[tex]
J = \frac{\partial x^{'\mu}}{\partial x^{\nu}} \ \ \,,
[/tex]

and invert it. Then indeed one finds that the derivative transforms with the inverse of A, and the other term is zero:[tex]
\partial'_{i} = [A^{-1}]^j{}_i \partial_j \ \ \ \ \ \,.
[/tex]
 

FAQ: Silly question about (Galilei) transformations

What are Galilei transformations?

Galilei transformations are mathematical equations used to describe the transformation of physical quantities between two different reference frames that are moving at a constant velocity relative to each other. They were first introduced by Italian scientist Galileo Galilei in the 17th century.

How do Galilei transformations differ from Einstein's theory of relativity?

Galilei transformations are based on the concept of absolute time and space, whereas Einstein's theory of relativity takes into account the relativity of time and space and introduces the idea of the speed of light as a constant. This fundamental difference leads to different equations and predictions.

What is the purpose of using Galilei transformations?

Galilei transformations are used to simplify the mathematical equations for describing the motion of objects in classical mechanics. They are also used to understand the relationship between different reference frames and to analyze the effects of relative motion on physical quantities.

Can Galilei transformations be applied to all types of motion?

Galilei transformations are only applicable to objects moving at constant velocities. They cannot accurately describe the motion of objects moving at high speeds or undergoing acceleration, which requires the use of Einstein's theory of relativity.

Why are Galilei transformations still studied and used today?

Although Galilei transformations are limited in their scope, they are still useful for understanding the basics of classical mechanics and as a stepping stone to understanding more complex concepts such as Einstein's theory of relativity. They also have practical applications in engineering and physics, such as in the design of motion control systems.

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