Simple cycloid time calculation problem

In summary, the conversation discusses a wire bent into the shape of a cycloid and a bead sliding down it without friction. The goal is to find the time it takes for the bead to reach a specific point on the wire. Using energy conservation and the equation for arc length, the solution is found to be \pi\sqrt{a/g}. The conversation also includes a question about getting rid of d\theta/dt in the equation.
  • #1
maverick280857
1,789
5

Homework Statement



Consider a wire bent into the shape of the cycloid

[tex]x = a(\theta - \sin\theta)[/tex]
[tex]y = a(\cos\theta -1)[/tex]

If a bead is released at the origin and slides down the wire without friction, show that [itex]\pi\sqrt{a/g}[/tex] is the time it takes to reach the point [itex](\pi a, -2a)[/tex] at the bottom.

Homework Equations



(See below)

The Attempt at a Solution



Energy conservation gives

[tex]\frac{1}{2}mv^{2} = mg(2a)[/tex]
or
[tex]v^{2} = 4ga[/tex]

For the point at the bottom, [itex]\theta = \pi[/itex]. So, the arc length is

[tex]s = \int_{0}^{\theta}\sqrt{\left(\frac{dx}{d\theta}\right)^{2} + \left(\frac{dy}{d\theta}\right)^{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]v = \frac{ds}{dt}[/tex]

How do I get rid of the [tex]d\theta/dt[/tex]? I know I'm missing something here...:rolleyes:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Okay I got it. :-p
 
  • #3


To get rid of the dθ/dt, you can use the chain rule:

ds/dt = ds/dθ * dθ/dt

Then, you can substitute in the values for ds/dθ and dθ/dt that you calculated earlier. This will give you an expression for v in terms of θ and t.

Next, you can use the fact that v^2 = 4ga to solve for t in terms of θ. This will give you an expression for the time it takes to reach the bottom in terms of θ.

Finally, you can plug in the value of θ = π to find the time it takes to reach the bottom, which will be in the form of π√(a/g).
 

Related to Simple cycloid time calculation problem

1. What is a "Simple cycloid time calculation problem"?

A "Simple cycloid time calculation problem" is a mathematical problem that involves calculating the time it takes for a point on a cycloid curve to travel from one point to another. A cycloid curve is the path traced by a point on a circle as it rolls along a straight line.

2. How is a simple cycloid curve different from a regular circle?

A simple cycloid curve is different from a regular circle because it is a non-uniform curve, meaning that its radius changes as it rotates. In contrast, a regular circle has a constant radius throughout its rotation.

3. What are some real-life applications of simple cycloid curves?

Simple cycloid curves have a wide range of applications in engineering and physics. Some common examples include the design of gear teeth, the motion of a pendulum, and the path of a projectile.

4. How is the time calculated for a simple cycloid curve?

To calculate the time for a simple cycloid curve, the equation T = 2π√(a/g) is used, where T is the time, a is the radius of the circle, and g is the acceleration due to gravity. This equation is derived from the conservation of energy principle.

5. What are some challenges associated with solving simple cycloid time calculation problems?

One of the main challenges of solving simple cycloid time calculation problems is the complexity of the equations involved. These problems often require advanced knowledge of calculus and physics. Additionally, the non-uniform nature of the curve can make the calculations more difficult compared to regular circles.

Similar threads

  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
568
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
690
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
875
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
10
Views
497
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
427
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
17
Views
671
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
7
Views
373
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
902
Back
Top