Simple reflection thought experiment

In summary, the conversation discusses a thought experiment involving a particle bouncing off a perfectly smooth wall at a 90 degree angle. The question is whether the particle ever comes to a complete stop before changing directions. The answer is different for a classical particle and a photon, as the photon is absorbed and re-emitted by the wall. The conversation also touches on the difference between classical mechanics and quantum mechanics in explaining these phenomena.
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MattTuc13
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I am going to start out with a simple thought experiment:

A particle is moving towards a wall at a 90 degree angle. The wall is perfectly smooth; therefore, when the particle bounces off, it will be traveling along the same path as it did when it came in.

Does the ball ever come to a complete stop? To me, it makes since that it would have to completely stop before it can turn around and come back.

If you say yes:
What about light... if light reflects off of a mirror at a 90 degree angle, then it can't stop, so how does it change directions?

If you say no:
Please explain how the particle does not stop at the instant it hits the wall.

Thanks for your help!

-Matt Tucker
 
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MattTuc13 said:
Does the ball ever come to a complete stop? To me, it makes since that it would have to completely stop before it can turn around and come back.
-Matt Tucker

Sorry! I just realized that the ball here should be listed as particle.

I would think that somebody would have an answer to this question...
 
  • #3
MattTuc13 said:
If you say no:
Please explain how the particle does not stop at the instant it hits the wall.

It disappears, and at that very moment, a new one appears with opposite velocity ? For instance ?

cheers,
Patrick.
 
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Problem is you are looking at two phenomena that maybe look alike but that are fundamentally different in nature. The instant change in impulse will be valid for the ball by applying classical mechanics. However for the photon, a QM-description is required. In this case you cannot look at the photon as a billiard ball. The incident photon is NOT the same as the reflected photon and the answer of vanesch illustrates that. It is indeed what happens: absorption and emission of the photons at the wall...

regards
marlon
 
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At one point in time the ball indeed stops. It's initial kinetic energy is now in the form of potential energy by the elastic deformation of the ball and wall. When light hits a wall it is absorbed, and it excites the atoms making up the wall. The excited atoms 'fall' down from their excited states to their ground state while re-emiting the energy in the form of radiation. So the light does not stop, but is absorbed and re-emitted.
 
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Thank you very much, that makes much more since!
 

FAQ: Simple reflection thought experiment

What is a simple reflection thought experiment?

A simple reflection thought experiment is a mental exercise that involves imagining a scenario and exploring its consequences, often used in philosophy and science to investigate ideas and theories.

How does a simple reflection thought experiment work?

In a simple reflection thought experiment, one must first define the scenario and any constraints or rules that apply. Then, one must imagine the scenario and consider the implications of the rules or constraints. This allows for a deeper understanding of the underlying principles and assumptions.

What is the purpose of conducting a simple reflection thought experiment?

The purpose of a simple reflection thought experiment is to gain insight and understanding into a concept or theory. By exploring a scenario and its consequences, one can uncover underlying assumptions and implications that may not be immediately apparent.

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Are there any limitations to using simple reflection thought experiments?

While simple reflection thought experiments can be useful, they also have limitations. They rely on the imagination and may not accurately reflect real-world scenarios. Additionally, they may not provide definitive answers, but rather offer insights and possibilities to be further explored.

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