Simple Single Variable Derivative Question

In summary, the conversation revolves around finding the derivative of a single variable function using the definition of derivative. The function is f(x)=abs(x)^(3/2) and the derivative is to be found when a=0. The conversation discusses the limitations of directly plugging in a value of a and suggests using the other definition of limit to find the derivative. It is also mentioned that the given function can be factored as a difference of cubes. Ultimately, it is concluded that the derivative can be easily found by plugging in the given value.
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cappygal
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wow! I am having a major brain fart here .. I'm in multivariable calc but I need to take the derivative of a single variable function using the definition of derivative. The function is:

f(x)=abs(x)^(3/2) and I need to find the derivative when a=0

so by the def of derivative, the derivative equals:

lim (h->0) of [abs(a+h)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/h

I know I'm not allowed to just "plug in" a=0 to get the derivative at this point .. but how do I do it? I can't combine the absolute value terms because of the triangle inequality (for ex. abs(-6)-abs(3)=3 but abs(-6-3)=9)

help! I feel really stupid right now.
 
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why can't you plug a=0 ?
 
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I thought when you were using definition of derivitive, you aren't allowed to plug in for a until you have it simplified? Am I wrong? I could be .. it's been a year since I've had to work with definition of derivative.
 
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There's no such rule. "a" is a placeholder for a constant; place your constant in there to get the derivative there. Leave it as "a" to get an expression for the derivative (if it exists) at all values of "a". :smile:
 
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cappygal said:
wow! I am having a major brain fart here .. I'm in multivariable calc but I need to take the derivative of a single variable function using the definition of derivative. The function is:
f(x)=abs(x)^(3/2) and I need to find the derivative when a=0
so by the def of derivative, the derivative equals:
lim (h->0) of [abs(a+h)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/h
I know I'm not allowed to just "plug in" a=0 to get the derivative at this point .. but how do I do it? I can't combine the absolute value terms because of the triangle inequality (for ex. abs(-6)-abs(3)=3 but abs(-6-3)=9)
help! I feel really stupid right now.

use the *other* definition of limit:
f '(a) = lim (x->a) of [abs(x)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/(x-a)

then factor the top as a difference of cubes.
 
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cappygal said:
wow! I am having a major brain fart here .. I'm in multivariable calc but I need to take the derivative of a single variable function using the definition of derivative. The function is:
f(x)=abs(x)^(3/2) and I need to find the derivative when a=0
so by the def of derivative, the derivative equals:
lim (h->0) of [abs(a+h)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/h
I know I'm not allowed to just "plug in" a=0 to get the derivative at this point .. but how do I do it? I can't combine the absolute value terms because of the triangle inequality (for ex. abs(-6)-abs(3)=3 but abs(-6-3)=9)
help! I feel really stupid right now.
You cannot plug in h= 0 because that would give 0/0. But if you are finding the derivative at a given x= a, you certainly can plug in that value of a before you start. You are looking for
[tex]lim_{h\rightarrow0}\frac{h^{\frac{3}{2}}}{h}[/tex]
That should be easy.
 

FAQ: Simple Single Variable Derivative Question

What is a simple single variable derivative?

A simple single variable derivative is a mathematical concept that represents the rate of change of a single variable function at a specific point. It is calculated by finding the slope of the tangent line to the function at that point.

How do you find the derivative of a simple single variable function?

To find the derivative of a simple single variable function, you can use the power rule, product rule, quotient rule, or chain rule. These rules involve taking the derivative of each term in the function and combining them using algebraic operations.

What is the purpose of finding the derivative of a function?

The derivative of a function is useful in many applications, such as physics, engineering, and economics. It can help us understand the rate of change of a system and make predictions about its future behavior.

Can the derivative of a function be negative?

Yes, the derivative of a function can be negative. This means that the function is decreasing at that point. A negative derivative indicates that the function is decreasing at a faster rate than it is increasing.

How do you use the derivative to find the maximum and minimum values of a function?

To find the maximum and minimum values of a function, you can use the first or second derivative test. The first derivative test involves setting the derivative equal to zero and solving for the critical points. The second derivative test involves evaluating the second derivative at the critical points to determine if they correspond to a maximum, minimum, or neither.

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