Sine, Cosine and Tangent Trig Help

In other words, it takes about ten times as long to get a tenth digit of precision as to get the one before it (and that's assuming you're not limited by the accuracy with which you can measure angles in the first place).In summary, the conversation discusses methods for finding Sine, Cosine, and Tangent without a calculator, specifically using a stick and sand method while stranded in the desert. The conversation covers various trigonometric identities and formulas, including angle addition, double angle, and half angle formulas. It also suggests using geometry and approximations to fill in missing values and discusses the history of calculating trigonometric values without technology. Ultimately, the conversation concludes with the understanding that higher levels of precision require more time
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[SOLVED]Sine, Cosine and Tangent Trig Help

I'm in 10th grade, I was just doing my homework when this dawned on me:

How would one find Sine, Cosine and Tangent without a calculator. So if I am stuck in the desert with a stick I could find the Cosine of 73º by stick and sand method.

Regards,
Austin
 
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Inkcoder said:
I'm in 10th grade, I was just doing my homework when this dawned on me:

How would one find Sine, Cosine and Tangent without a calculator. So if I am stuck in the desert with a stick I could find the Cosine of 73º by stick and sand method.

Regards,
Austin

You can start by finding the values for the fundamental angles (0º, 30º, 45º, 60º, and 90º). Do you have the "angle-addition" formulas? That will get you to all the multiples of 15º. You can get the "double-angle" formulas from the "angle-addition" formulas (or infer what the "addition" formulas ought to be if you only remember the "double-angle" formulas). You can get to the "half-angle" formulas from those, which should get you to multiples of 7.5º.

These will all give you "mathematically exact" results, which means here numbers with radicals in them. Are you wanting approximate decimal values? That'll take some time, extracting the square roots...

If you use enough geometry, you can probably fill in some more values by looking at regular polygons, working out horizontal and vertical distances of the vertices and relating them to the angles in the polygons. (I'm assuming you're stranded for a while and are getting really bored...)

To get cos 73º is probably going to require some sort of approximation approach. With enough values filled in, you can probably look at how the trig. functions behave and work out formulas for estimating intermediate values. (When you get to things like Taylor series in calculus, you can get more broadly applicable formulas.)

This is an issue of some interest, because the earliest tables of trigonometric values were worked out entirely without calculation devices and they predate calculus. It's always good to know something about how you can calculate, or at least estimate, values of functions and answers to problems without resorting to calculators or software. (Sometimes it's the only way you have of judging if the result from a calculation or computer program is credible...)
 
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Inkcoder said:
I'm in 10th grade, I was just doing my homework when this dawned on me:

How would one find Sine, Cosine and Tangent without a calculator. So if I am stuck in the desert with a stick I could find the Cosine of 73º by stick and sand method.

Just thought of something else that'll work if you want this *particular* number. You know that cos 73º = sin 17º (17º being the complimentary angle). Have you learned the "small-angle" approximation? For (theta) < about 0.3 radians, it's pretty nearly right that (theta) in radians is approximately sin(theta) and tan(theta); this becomes more and more precisely correct as theta approaches zero.

Seventeen degrees is about 17/57 radian, which will be roughly 0.30 radians (divide it long-hand -- you only want two decimal places anyway -- or consider that
17/51 = 0.3333... and 17/68 = 0.25 or just note that 3 x 57 = 171). Therefore
sin 17º = cos 73º = about 0.30 .

The calculator says cos 73º = 0.29237... Hah! In your face, Casio fx-115MS!
 
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Thanks for the fast replys!

I think all were worthy answers but for a more precise and working with all numbers, I am going to have to give this one too Robphy. Dynamicsolo thank you but that method seemed to only really work with multiples of 5 and 10, and seemed a bit iffy. Your other response got me on to some good thinking, interesting but seems to only work with specific numbers..

Best Regards,
Austin
 
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How precise a result are you looking for? A "desert island" problem generally implies a low-precision or even "ballpark" value (involving what people used to call a "back-of-the-envelope" calculation).

If you're looking for higher-precision values for the trig. functions for all values of theta, the methods will necessarily be calculation-intensive -- hardly a "stick-and-sand" approach.
 
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I think I just tried to dramatically stress the idea that there was no calculator. I just wanted an accurate way to do with pen and a paper just for my own knowledge.

-Austin
 
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That was my understanding: I was describing how people developed the values for these functions when they only had paper and pen and a lot of time... The amount of time required to increase the level of precision by another decimal place generally rises by equal factors.
 

FAQ: Sine, Cosine and Tangent Trig Help

What are sine, cosine, and tangent?

Sine, cosine, and tangent are three basic trigonometric functions that are used to find the ratios between the sides of a right triangle. These functions are used in mathematics and science to solve various problems involving triangles and circles.

How are sine, cosine, and tangent related to each other?

Sine, cosine, and tangent are related to each other through the Pythagorean identities. The sine function is equal to the opposite side divided by the hypotenuse, cosine is equal to the adjacent side divided by the hypotenuse, and tangent is equal to the opposite side divided by the adjacent side.

What is the unit circle and how does it relate to sine, cosine, and tangent?

The unit circle is a circle with a radius of 1 unit. It is used to visualize the values of sine, cosine, and tangent for any angle. The x-coordinate of a point on the unit circle represents the cosine value, and the y-coordinate represents the sine value. The tangent value is equal to the slope of a line tangent to the unit circle at a specific point.

How are sine, cosine, and tangent used in real-world applications?

Sine, cosine, and tangent are used in a variety of fields, such as engineering, physics, and astronomy. They can be used to calculate the height of a building, the distance between two objects, or the trajectory of a projectile. They are also used in GPS technology to calculate distances and locations.

How can I remember the values of sine, cosine, and tangent for common angles?

One way to remember the values of sine, cosine, and tangent for common angles is by using the mnemonic SOH-CAH-TOA. This stands for "Sine equals Opposite over Hypotenuse, Cosine equals Adjacent over Hypotenuse, Tangent equals Opposite over Adjacent." Another way is to memorize the values of sine, cosine, and tangent for key angles (0°, 30°, 45°, 60°, 90°) and use them to calculate values for other angles using the Pythagorean identities.

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