Small relatively unknown undergrad

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In summary, the conversation revolves around the topic of pursuing a graduate degree in math from a relatively unknown school. The speaker is concerned about their chances of getting into a top program without a perfect GPA and limited research opportunities. The responder notes that although small colleges may have a lower overall graduation rate, it is not impossible for students to get into good grad schools. They advise the speaker to inquire with their own math professors for information on past graduates and their success in getting into PhD programs. Furthermore, they share a link to a forum where similar discussions have taken place. Finally, the speaker mentions speaking with a professor who informed them of a few successful applicants from their department, which primarily caters to secondary education majors.
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I'm currently a sophomore math major at a locally known, but nationally unheard of public liberal arts college. Recently, I've decided that I want to pursue a graduate degree in math. I was looking around at various institutions, and a couple listed the schools that incoming PhD students were coming from schools like MIT, Michigan State, Cornell, etc. There didn't seem to be any successful applicants coming from small liberal arts colleges.
Am I at a significant disadvantage coming from a relatively unknown school without having something like a 4.0 GPA?
Is there anything beyond taking all the math that I can, and trying to do as much research as possible that will help me out?
Since there's no math research going on (with the exception of math being applied for biology, etc.) here, are there any research opportunities other than summer programs like REUs?
 
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Graduates of small colleges do get into grad school. I was one myself, going from a small college in Ohio to the University of Michigan for a Ph.D. in physics. But fewer students graduate from small schools, overall, than from big ones, so they're a minority of the grad school applicant pool to begin with.

Have you asked your math professors how many students from your school have tried to get into grad school, how many were successful, and where they went? The answers to those questions are the most relevant to your current situation. They should be available, because colleges have to collect statistics like that for the reports that they prepare for accreditation.
 
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I shadowed a physician last semester that did exactly what you are asking about. He went to a very small school nearby as a chemistry major. After graduating from this unheard of school he went on to receive a Ph.D in organic chemistry from Johns Hopkins University and later an MD. It's definitely not impossible to get into a great school after going to a small undergrad school.
 
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jeffasinger said:
I'm currently a sophomore math major at a locally known, but nationally unheard of public liberal arts college. Recently, I've decided that I want to pursue a graduate degree in math. I was looking around at various institutions, and a couple listed the schools that incoming PhD students were coming from schools like MIT, Michigan State, Cornell, etc. There didn't seem to be any successful applicants coming from small liberal arts colleges.
Am I at a significant disadvantage coming from a relatively unknown school without having something like a 4.0 GPA?
Is there anything beyond taking all the math that I can, and trying to do as much research as possible that will help me out?
Since there's no math research going on (with the exception of math being applied for biology, etc.) here, are there any research opportunities other than summer programs like REUs?

Numerous students from colleges similar to yours have been admitted to quality grad schools:

http://www.physicsgre.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1847
 
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Thanks for the advice, I talked to a professor in my department and he said that relatively few people apply, but mentioned a couple people that he knew of that were successful at getting into PhD programs.
The department mostly just serves as an area for secondary education majors to concentrate in.
 

FAQ: Small relatively unknown undergrad

What is a small relatively unknown undergrad?

A small relatively unknown undergrad refers to a college or university with a small student population and low name recognition compared to larger, more well-known institutions.

How does attending a small relatively unknown undergrad impact a student's education?

The impact of attending a small relatively unknown undergrad can vary. Some students may thrive in a smaller, more intimate learning environment, while others may feel limited by the resources and opportunities available at a smaller institution.

Are there any advantages to attending a small relatively unknown undergrad?

Yes, there can be advantages to attending a small relatively unknown undergrad. These may include smaller class sizes, more individualized attention from professors, and a close-knit community feel.

Will attending a small relatively unknown undergrad hurt my chances of getting into graduate school?

Not necessarily. Graduate schools typically consider a variety of factors in their admissions process, including GPA, test scores, letters of recommendation, and relevant experience. Attending a smaller, less well-known institution does not automatically disqualify a student from being accepted into graduate school.

How can I make the most of my experience at a small relatively unknown undergrad?

To make the most of your experience at a small relatively unknown undergrad, take advantage of the resources and opportunities available to you. Get to know your professors, participate in extracurricular activities, and seek out internships or research opportunities. Network with other students and faculty members to expand your connections and opportunities. Remember that the value of your education is not solely determined by the name of your institution.

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