Solve Difficult Integral: Help Appreciated

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In summary, the conversation revolved around solving a difficult integral and various methods were suggested, such as completing the square and using u substitution. However, it was eventually determined that splitting the integral into two parts and using different techniques for each part would be the most effective strategy. The conversation ended with the acknowledgement that this approach had successfully solved the problem.
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I have tried many different ways of solving this integral but always seem to get stuck. Any help on this one would be greatly appreciated.

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Have you tried completing the square for the thing under the square root sign?
 
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You could also multiply the stuff under the radical out and use u substitution to solve.
 
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I have tried completing the square. I'll check it again. I'll also try a substitution. Thanks
 
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Actually, sorry, I don't think u substitution works here.
 
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If you multiply the factors in the radical you get -x^2 + 9x -18. If the numerator were -2x + 9, you would have [itex]\int u^{-1/2}du[/itex].

The solution is to add what you need in the numerator, and then subtract it off, and split into two separate integrals. This is slightly more complicated in that you need a multiplier of -2 for x.

After splitting into two integrals, the first integral can be done by an ordinary substitution, as described above. The second can be done by completing the square in the radical, and using a trig substitution.

Caveat: I haven't done this problem, but I think this strategy will work.
 
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Thanks for all of intput. I did end up sovling this by spliting the integral into two. The first part was a radical and the second turned out to be an arcsin.
 

FAQ: Solve Difficult Integral: Help Appreciated

What is an integral?

An integral is a mathematical concept that represents the area under a curve in a graph. It is used to calculate the total value of a function over a given interval.

Why are some integrals considered difficult?

Some integrals can be difficult to solve because they involve complex functions and require advanced mathematical techniques to solve. They may also have no closed-form solution and require numerical methods to approximate the value.

What are some common techniques for solving difficult integrals?

Some common techniques include substitution, integration by parts, trigonometric identities, and partial fractions. These techniques involve manipulating the integral to make it easier to solve or breaking it down into smaller, more manageable parts.

How can I check if my solution to a difficult integral is correct?

You can check your solution by differentiating it and seeing if you get back to the original function. You can also use online tools or software to calculate the integral and compare the results.

Are there any tips for approaching difficult integrals?

Some tips for approaching difficult integrals include breaking the integral into smaller parts, using known identities and formulas, and practicing with different types of integrals. It is also helpful to have a strong understanding of algebra and calculus concepts.

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