Solve Equilibrium Problem: 4 Men Carrying Beam, Calculate Forces

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In summary, four people are carrying a beam of length L with mass M, two at the ends and two in the middle. The distance between each person is equal to 1m, 2m, and 1m respectively. The normal forces acting upon the men are equal and can be calculated using general force and torque formulas. However, due to the symmetry of the system, the problem is statically indeterminate and does not provide enough information to solve for the normal forces. Assuming the load is evenly distributed can provide a solution, but other combinations of forces are also possible.
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1. Four people carry a uniform beam of length L (with mass M) holding it horizontal. Two men hold it at the ends while the remaining two are inward but nevertheless all men are equally apart from each other i.e. if the beam is 4m long the distance from 1st to 2nd is 1m; 2nd to 3rd is 2m and 3rd to 4th is 1m.
Calculate the normal forces acting upon the men.




2. System is in equilibrium, static. general force and torque formulas apply.



3. I assumed due to symmetry, outward Fn forces and inward Fn forces must be equal. Therefore Mg=2xFno+2xFni
The problem is the SAME equation stems from torque formula as well and as I have two identical formulas with two unknowns, I get nowhere.
Where did I go wrong?


 
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You didn't go wrong. The problem is statically indeterminate--you just don't have enough information. For example: The two end people can lift 90% of the weight if they want and the two guys in the middle could just pretend to help. That and many other combinations of forces are consistent with the given information.

Of course, you could just assume that the load is evenly distributed.

(Also: If they are evenly spaced and the board is 4m long, they are 4/3 m apart.)
 
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thank you
 

FAQ: Solve Equilibrium Problem: 4 Men Carrying Beam, Calculate Forces

What is an equilibrium problem?

An equilibrium problem is a physics problem that involves calculating the forces acting on a system in order to determine if it is in a state of equilibrium, or balance.

How many men are involved in this particular equilibrium problem?

In this problem, there are four men involved in carrying a beam.

What is the purpose of calculating the forces in this equilibrium problem?

The purpose of calculating the forces is to determine if the four men are evenly distributing the weight of the beam and if the system is in equilibrium. This can also help identify any potential imbalances or safety hazards.

What factors are involved in calculating the forces in this equilibrium problem?

The factors involved in calculating the forces include the weight of the beam, the distance between the men, and the forces exerted by each man on the beam.

What is the equation used to solve this equilibrium problem?

The equation used to solve this problem is the sum of forces in the horizontal and vertical directions must equal zero in order for the system to be in equilibrium. This can be represented as ΣFx = 0 and ΣFy = 0.

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