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Sorry for the length of the post, the problem I've included is not difficult but I wanted to have an example to help illustrate my question.
solve:
[tex]\sqrt{x}-\sqrt[4]{x} -2=0 [/tex]
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[tex](x-16)(x-1)=0[/tex]
The roots are 16 and 1, however when one puts them back into the original equation, 1 is found to be extraneous leaving 16 as the only solution. My question is, why do extraneous roots arise?
I attempted to answer the question myself by reversing the above process and putting 1 in for x at each step to see when the equation becomes "invalid" for the extraneous root.
[tex](x-16)(x-1)=0[/tex]
[tex]x^{2}-17x+16=0[/tex]
[tex]x^{2}-17x+16+25x=25x[/tex]
[tex]x^{2}+8x+16=25x[/tex]
[tex](x+4)^{2}=25x[/tex]
[tex]x+4=5\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex]x+4-4\sqrt{x}=5\sqrt{x}-4\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex]x+4-4\sqrt{x}=\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex](\sqrt{x}-2)^{2}=\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex](\sqrt{x}-2)^{2}=\sqrt{x}[/tex] equation A
[tex]\sqrt{x}-2=\sqrt[4]{x}[/tex] equation B
[tex]\sqrt{x}-\sqrt[4]{x}-2=0[/tex]
Putting 1 in for x in equation A works but B does not. It seems that going from A to B creates the problem. When one takes the square root of equation A the left side becomes
[tex]((\sqrt{x}-2)^{2})^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]
If I understood CompuChip's answer correctly to one of my previous posts, the inner to outer priority is not followed. If 1 is in for x, then -1 is the value in the first set of parenthesis and then -1 squared is 1, and then the square root is also 1. However if 1 is not in for x , since the roots are not known when one first goes through the problem, the squared to the 1/2 power gives what's in the parenthesis to the first power, which is just what's in the parenthesis. Then when 1 is in for x, we have -1 to the first power which is -1. The order of operations makes a difference for x=1 but does not for x=16.
Is it true then, that extraneous roots arise because some mathematical operation is violated for that root?
Thanks for any answers.
solve:
[tex]\sqrt{x}-\sqrt[4]{x} -2=0 [/tex]
.
.
.
[tex](x-16)(x-1)=0[/tex]
The roots are 16 and 1, however when one puts them back into the original equation, 1 is found to be extraneous leaving 16 as the only solution. My question is, why do extraneous roots arise?
I attempted to answer the question myself by reversing the above process and putting 1 in for x at each step to see when the equation becomes "invalid" for the extraneous root.
[tex](x-16)(x-1)=0[/tex]
[tex]x^{2}-17x+16=0[/tex]
[tex]x^{2}-17x+16+25x=25x[/tex]
[tex]x^{2}+8x+16=25x[/tex]
[tex](x+4)^{2}=25x[/tex]
[tex]x+4=5\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex]x+4-4\sqrt{x}=5\sqrt{x}-4\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex]x+4-4\sqrt{x}=\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex](\sqrt{x}-2)^{2}=\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex](\sqrt{x}-2)^{2}=\sqrt{x}[/tex] equation A
[tex]\sqrt{x}-2=\sqrt[4]{x}[/tex] equation B
[tex]\sqrt{x}-\sqrt[4]{x}-2=0[/tex]
Putting 1 in for x in equation A works but B does not. It seems that going from A to B creates the problem. When one takes the square root of equation A the left side becomes
[tex]((\sqrt{x}-2)^{2})^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]
If I understood CompuChip's answer correctly to one of my previous posts, the inner to outer priority is not followed. If 1 is in for x, then -1 is the value in the first set of parenthesis and then -1 squared is 1, and then the square root is also 1. However if 1 is not in for x , since the roots are not known when one first goes through the problem, the squared to the 1/2 power gives what's in the parenthesis to the first power, which is just what's in the parenthesis. Then when 1 is in for x, we have -1 to the first power which is -1. The order of operations makes a difference for x=1 but does not for x=16.
Is it true then, that extraneous roots arise because some mathematical operation is violated for that root?
Thanks for any answers.