Solve Force on Square Loop with Current I in Non-Uniform Field

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The forces on the top and bottom wires cancel out, but the forces on the sides do not, resulting in a net force to the right on the loop. This net force is equal to \vec{F} = \frac{ika^2}{2} \hat{z} . In summary, the magnetic field in the region is given by B=kz\hat{x}, and when a square loop carrying a counterclockwise current I is placed in the yz plane and centered at the origin, the net force on the loop is \vec{F} = \frac{ika^2}{2} \hat{z}, pointing to the right.
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Homework Statement


Problem 5.4 Suppose that the magnetic field in some region has the form [itex] B=kz \hat{x} [/itex] where k is a constant). Find the force on a square loop (side a), lying in the yz plane and centered at the origin, if it carries a current I, flowing counterclockwise, when you look down the x axis.


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[tex] \vec{F} = I \int d\vec{l} \times \vec{B} [/tex]

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Now i can easily prove that the forces in the two sides that are in line with tehe Y axis cancel out

For the segments parallel to the Z axis however things are a bit different
on the top segment for z>0
[tex]F = i \frac{a}{2} k \frac{a}{2} (\hat{-z}\times\hat{x}) = \frac{ika^2}{4} \hat{y}[/tex]
For the bottom segment z>0
[tex]F = i \frac{a}{2} k \frac{a}{2} (\hat{z}\times\hat{x}) = -\frac{ika^2}{4} \hat{y}[/tex]

For the top segment z<0
[tex] F = i \frac{a}{2} k \frac{-a}{2} (\hat{-z}\times\hat{x}) = -\frac{ika^2}{4} \hat{y}[/tex]
For the bottom segment z<0
[tex] F = i \frac{a}{2} k \frac{-a}{2} (\hat{z}\times\hat{x}) = \frac{ika^2}{4} \hat{y}[/tex]

but don't all these forces just cancel to zero??

where have i gone wrong?? I know the answer can't be zero because this is not a uniform field...

Thanks for your help!

(edit: i have changed the diagram since i had done it wrong, the current should have been in the opposite direction)
 

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The forces on the top wire and the bottom wire are in the same direction.
z is only >0 for the top wire and only <0 for the bottom wire.
z can't be <0 at the topp wire.
There are only two forces to add.
 
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Meir Achuz said:
The forces on the top wire and the bottom wire are in the same direction.
z is only >0 for the top wire and only <0 for the bottom wire.
z can't be <0 at the topp wire.
There are only two forces to add.

why can't z <0 for hte top wire... doesn't part of the wire lie in teh z<0 region? And isn't the field different in taht region aswell??
 
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stunner5000pt said:
Now i can easily prove that the forces in the two sides that are in line with tehe Y axis cancel out
Sure about that?
stunner5000pt said:
but doesn't the left side of the loop lie in the z<0 part of the YZ plane? Thus, doesn't the magnetic field become negative??
Yes.
 
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Doc Al said:
Sure about that?

on second thought... it doenst cancel out

for hte right side loop
[tex] F = i \frac{a}{2} \hat{y} \times k \frac{a}{2} \hat{x} = \frac{ika^2}{4} \hat{z} [/tex]

[tex] F = i \frac{a}{2} (-\hat{y}) \times k \frac{-a}{2} \hat {x} = \frac{ika^2}{4} \hat{z} [/tex]

so the force points to the right, according to my diagram and has value [tex] \vec{F} = \frac{ika^2}{2} \hat{z} [/tex]thanks a lot!
 
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Meir Achuz said:
The forces on the top wire and the bottom wire are in the same direction.
z is only >0 for the top wire and only <0 for the bottom wire.
z can't be <0 at the topp wire.
There are only two forces to add.

when i do the Right hand rule i see that on top force is up and at bottom its down so they cancel
now the sides the force also points in opposite direction so they cancel...
this does not make sense to me at all could some1 explain please
 
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Brown Arrow said:
when i do the Right hand rule i see that on top force is up and at bottom its down so they cancel
now the sides the force also points in opposite direction so they cancel...
this does not make sense to me at all could some1 explain please

Are you sure you got the directions of the magnetic field right? To summarize, if k>0, the field points up on the right side of the image and down on the left side.
 

FAQ: Solve Force on Square Loop with Current I in Non-Uniform Field

What is the formula for finding the force on a square loop with current in a non-uniform magnetic field?

The formula for finding the force on a square loop with current in a non-uniform magnetic field is F = IABsinθ, where F is the force, I is the current, A is the area of the loop, B is the magnetic field, and θ is the angle between the direction of the current and the direction of the magnetic field.

How do I determine the direction of the force on a square loop in a non-uniform magnetic field?

The direction of the force on a square loop in a non-uniform magnetic field is determined by the right-hand rule. If the current is flowing in the same direction as the magnetic field, the force will be repulsive. If the current is flowing in the opposite direction as the magnetic field, the force will be attractive.

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