Solve Grad x (grad x B) Equation

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The discussion centers on the equation ∇x(∇xB) = (B∇)B - ∇(1/2B²) and its validity in the context of classical mechanics and electrodynamics. Participants express confusion over the original identity, suggesting it may be incorrect, and highlight the correct form involving the divergence and Laplacian of B. A proof is provided for the correct identity using component representation and the Levi-Civita tensor, demonstrating the relationship to the Maxwell stress tensor. The conversation indicates a need for a stronger foundational understanding of the concepts involved. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of clarity in mathematical identities related to vector calculus in physics.
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Homework Statement



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∇x(∇xB) = (B∇)B - ∇ (1/2B2)

Homework Equations



r = (x,y,z) = xiei

∂xi/∂xj = δij

r2 = xkxk

δij = 1 if i=j, 0 otherwise (kronecker delta)
εijk is the alternating stress tensor and summn convn is assumed.

The Attempt at a Solution



On the LHS I simplified to get:

εijk2/∂xj∂xk

but was unsure what to do next because the RHS contains only first order derivatives

On the RHS I was able to get to:

(B∇)B - ∇ (1/2B2) = B(∂Bi/∂i)-B
= B(∂Bi/∂i-1)

I feel like I'm just not seeing some simple trick, or there is a rule that I don't remember/haven't learned. This is for my Classical Mechanics class BTW.
 
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There must be something wrong in your problem statement or how can you get an expression which is quadratic in \vec{B} taking derivatives of an expression that contains only one \vec{B}? The correct equation to prove is
\vec{\nabla} \times (\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{B})=\vec{\nabla} (\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{B}) - \vec{\nabla}^2 \vec{B},
which holds, however, only in Cartesian coordinates!
 
that's what I was thinking, but the assignment is what I wrote above
 
(∇xB)xB = (B∇)B - ∇ (B²/2)

is famous in MHD
 
that's still not what I'm asking. but maybe showing a proof might help me out a bit
 
Showing a proof of what?
What are you asking, actually?
The original identity is obviously wrong (∇x(∇xB) = (B∇)B - ∇ (1/2B2) is wrong).
Shall we advise you to complain to your teacher?

The proof of the second identity, (∇xB)xB = (B∇)B - ∇ (B²/2), is straightforward by using components representation.

Using the notation "eik" for the Levi-Civita tensor,
using 'F,l" to denote the derivative of F with respect to xl,
(∇xB)xB can be developed as follows:

((∇xB)xB)i
= eijk (ejlm Bm,l) Bk
= - eikj elmj Bm,l Bk
= -(eil ekm - eim ekl) Bm,l Bk
= - Bk,i Bk + Bi,k Bk
= - (Bk²/2),i + Bi,k Bk

which ends the proof.

Reading you initial post:

"εijk is the alternating stress tensor ..."
"On the LHS I simplified to get: εijk∂2/∂xj∂xk"

I have the feeling you lack some basic understanding, since it makes almost no meaning.
I don't know if your question is part of a math course or a physics course (electrodynamics).
In any case, you need to go back to the basics.
The strange thing is that the identity "(∇xB)xB = (B∇)B - ∇ (B²/2)" is indeed related to the Maxwell stress tensor in electrodynamics (if B is the magnetic field). The second term is then called the magnetic pressure.
As you posted in the "Calculus & Beyond Homework" section I wonder how you could have mixed that "math exercise" with electrodynamics. Is Google the reason?
 
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