Solve Logarithmic Equation: 3^(2x) - 5(3^x) = -6

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The discussion centers on solving the logarithmic equation 3^(2x) - 5(3^x) = -6. Participants clarify that the initial approach incorrectly applies logarithmic properties, particularly in handling addition within logarithmic arguments. They suggest substituting u = 3^x to transform the equation into a quadratic form, which leads to the correct solutions of x = 1 and x = log3(2). Additionally, they emphasize the importance of recognizing patterns in equations involving exponents and logarithms, noting that experience plays a key role in identifying these formations. Overall, the conversation highlights common pitfalls in logarithmic manipulation and effective strategies for solving such equations.
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Homework Statement


3^(2x) - 5(3^x) = -6

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I can't determine the right answer :/? I'm not sure what's incorrect with my current method.

3^(2x) - 5(3^x) = -6

log((3^(2x)) - log((5(3^x)) = -log(6)

xlog(9) - xlog(15)= -log(6)

x((log(9) - log(15)) = -log(6)

x = -log(6)/log(9/15) = 3.507

Any assistance would be appreciated.
 
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S.R said:
3^(2x) - 5(3^x) = -6

log((3^(2x)) - log((5(3^x)) = -log(6)

What you essentially did here was:

a+b=c

\log(a+b)=\log(c)

\log(a)+\log(b)=\log(c)

And you can't go from the second to the third line! You can't split up a log that has addition in its argument, and also remember that \log(a)+\log(b)=\log(ab)\neq \log(a+b)

Start by letting u=3^x

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Also, \log(5\cdot 3^x)\neq x\cdot\log(15) because to use that rule, it'd have to be \log((5\cdot 3)^x) = \log(5^x\cdot3^x)

For \log(5\cdot 3^x) what you'd instead do is convert it into \log(5)+\log(3^x) then apply your rule, \log(5)+x\cdot\log(3)
 
Hmm, therefore log(5)+xlog(3) =/= xlog(15)?

Alright, then I can rewrite the equation:

log((3^(2x)) - log((5(3^x)) = -log(6)

xlog(9) - [log(5) + xlog(3)] = -log(6)

x((log(9) - log(3)) = -log(6) + log(5)

x = ((log(5) - log(6)) / log(3)

Correct?
 
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No, you can't do any of that for reasons mentallic has already explained. Start from the original equation 3^(2x) - 5(3^x) = -6 and put u=3^x. 3^(2x)=(3^x)^2.
 
Edit: Oh, if I expand, a quadratic equation forms...let me attempt to solve it then substitute u=3^x.
 
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Therefore, x=1 and x=log3(2). Thank-you :)
 
S.R said:
Therefore, x=1 and x=log3(2). Thank-you :)

Very welcome. You've got it. log3(2) means log to the base 2 of 3, yes? Could also just write it as log(3)/log(2).
 
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Very welcome. You've got it. log3(2) means log to the base 2 of 3, yes? Could also just write it as log(3)/log(2).

Yeah :) Additionally, are there any tips you can give for identifying those type of formations/patterns? Or have you simply developed an instinct through experience?
 
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Yeah :) Additionally, are there any tips you can give for identifying those type of formations/patterns? Or have you simply developed an instinct through experience?

Just thinking about it mostly. Having seen a few examples in the past doesn't hurt. So, yeah, let's say experience.
 
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Yeah :) Additionally, are there any tips you can give for identifying those type of formations/patterns? Or have you simply developed an instinct through experience?

I'd be lying if I said I could have easily spotted the quadratic equation when first studying logs. When you see a2x in an equation, I always keep in mind that it's equivalent to (ax)2 and thus might involve quadratics.

These are also some of the kinds of problems they use to try and throw you off, because students instinctively think: Well, there are exponentials so I need to use logs, but as you now know, that's not the case.
 

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