Solve Partial Derivatives: Chain Rule Explained

In summary, the conversation discussed the solution of a problem involving partial derivatives. The question was about the reason behind a specific expression being equal to -1. The expert explained that this is due to the chain rule and the specific order in which the partial derivatives are taken. The final expression is equal to -1 because of the negative signs introduced by the chain rule when taking the partial derivatives in the specific order - z, x, y.
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[SOLVED] Partial Derivatives

Whoops, never mind my calculus book explained it.

Homework Statement


F(x,y,z) = 0
[tex](\frac{\partial x}{\partial y})\right)_{z} (\frac{\partial y}{\partial x})\right)_{z} [/tex] = 0

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[tex](\frac{\partial x}{\partial y})\right)_{z} (\frac{\partial y}{\partial z})\right)_{x} (\frac{\partial z}{\partial x})\right)_{y}[/tex] = -1

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I drew out a diagram
F
dF/dx dF/dy dF/dz

dx/dy dx/dz dy/dx dy/dz dz/dx dz/dy

So I would assume that the reason the second expression is = -1 because of the chain rule, however, I really don't see why it would be -1...
If it were dx/dy dy/dx dz/dx would it be 1? Just because the middle term is dy/dz the sign will change?
 
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Hello there,

Thank you for your post. It seems like you are on the right track with your understanding of the chain rule. Let me explain why the second expression is equal to -1.

First, let's rewrite the second expression using the chain rule:

(\frac{\partial x}{\partial y})\right)_{z} (\frac{\partial y}{\partial z})\right)_{x} (\frac{\partial z}{\partial x})\right)_{y} = (\frac{\partial x}{\partial y} \frac{\partial y}{\partial z} \frac{\partial z}{\partial x})\right)_{y}

Now, let's look at the partial derivatives in the parentheses. We have dx/dy, dy/dz, and dz/dx. Notice that when we multiply these three terms together, we get (-1)(-1)(1) = 1. This is because when we take the derivative of x with respect to y, we are essentially taking the derivative of x with respect to z and then taking the derivative of z with respect to y. This introduces a negative sign in the chain rule.

So, why is the final expression equal to -1? This is because we are taking the partial derivatives with respect to x, y, and z in a specific order - z, x, y. This means that when we take the derivative of x with respect to y, we are essentially taking the derivative of x with respect to z and then taking the derivative of z with respect to y. This introduces a negative sign in the chain rule. Similarly, when we take the derivative of y with respect to z, we are essentially taking the derivative of y with respect to x and then taking the derivative of x with respect to z. This also introduces a negative sign in the chain rule. Finally, when we take the derivative of z with respect to x, we are essentially taking the derivative of z with respect to y and then taking the derivative of y with respect to x. This does not introduce a negative sign in the chain rule.

So, when we multiply all these partial derivatives together, we get (-1)(-1)(1) = 1. However, since we are taking the partial derivatives in a specific order - z, x, y - the final expression is equal to -1.

I hope this explanation helps. Let me know if you have any further questions.
 

FAQ: Solve Partial Derivatives: Chain Rule Explained

What is the chain rule in partial derivatives?

The chain rule is a mathematical formula that allows us to find the derivative of a function composed of two or more other functions. In the context of partial derivatives, it is used to find the rate of change of a function with respect to one independent variable while holding another independent variable constant.

How do I apply the chain rule in partial derivatives?

To apply the chain rule in partial derivatives, you first need to identify the "outer" and "inner" functions. The outer function is the one that contains the independent variable you are differentiating with respect to, while the inner function is the one that contains the other independent variable. Then, you simply take the derivative of the outer function, leaving the inner function unchanged, and multiply it by the derivative of the inner function with respect to the variable you are holding constant.

Can the chain rule be used for functions with more than two variables?

Yes, the chain rule can be used for functions with any number of variables. However, the process becomes more complicated as the number of variables increases, as you will need to take partial derivatives with respect to each variable and then multiply them together.

Why is the chain rule important in partial derivatives?

The chain rule is important in partial derivatives because it allows us to find the rate of change of a function with respect to one variable while holding another variable constant. This is useful in many areas of science and engineering, where we may need to analyze the relationship between multiple variables in a function.

Are there any common mistakes when using the chain rule in partial derivatives?

Yes, there are a few common mistakes that can occur when using the chain rule in partial derivatives. These include incorrectly identifying the outer and inner functions, forgetting to take the derivative of the inner function, and making algebraic errors when multiplying the derivatives together. It is important to double check your work and practice applying the chain rule to avoid these mistakes.

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