Solve Particular Solution for R3 in Circuit with V1=V2=L1=L2=0

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a circuit and its solution using node analysis. The circuit is a doubly terminated lossless ladder, which is a low pass filter. The differential equations used to solve the circuit may be incorrect and further simulations have been done to test the effect of frequency. The conversation also mentions the use of complex impedances and the s-domain to simplify analysis.
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1. Homework Statement
The problem says:
For the next circuit obtain a particular solution for R3 when v1=v2=l1=l2=0 at t=0.
vs= cos(wt) dc source= 10v *R3 is the 1k resistor.
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2. Homework Equations


Kirchoff current law



3. The Attempt at a Solution


With node analysis, there are two differential equations to solve, I solved the differential equation and got:

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According to simulations the efect of frequency is not too strong, I think that the system of DE was wrong, and that's why solution isn't reallistic.


PD. voltage v is noise and it equals to cos(wt). I Have done a simulation i'll add it.

Simulations:
W=1Hz
W=1MHz


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According to simulations the efect of frequency is not too strong, I think that the system of DE was wrong, and that's why solution isn't reallistic.

That circuit is called a doubly terminated lossless ladder and it is a low pass filter. LC elements arranged in a ladder like that result from implementing filters from a given transfer function and such circuits can be almost automatically generated.

You wouldn't know that at this point of course, but you can see the low pass character like this. Capacitors are open circuits at DC and inductors are short circuits at DC. This means a DC input signal will only see a resistor divider. At high frequencies, capacitors are short circuits (1/jwC goes to zero) and inductors are open circuits (jwL goes to infinity). These means there is no path from input to output for high frequency signals and the output will be zero. So at low frequencies you have output and high frequencies you have no output. That's a low pass filter.

The differential equations you wrote give me a headache. Do you not transform the elements to complex impedances or into the s-domain to solve the circuit algebraically? The impedance of a capacitor is 1/sC (or 1/jwC) and the impedance of an inductor is sL (or jwL). This greatly simplifies analysis and avoids errors in coupled differential equations.
 

Related to Solve Particular Solution for R3 in Circuit with V1=V2=L1=L2=0

1. What is a particular solution in a circuit?

A particular solution in a circuit refers to a specific solution that satisfies the given circuit's equations and conditions. It is a unique solution that is found by solving the circuit's differential equations and taking into account the initial conditions.

2. What is R3 in a circuit?

R3 in a circuit is a resistor that is connected in parallel with other resistors and components. Its value determines the amount of resistance in that particular branch of the circuit. It is usually labeled with a number or letter for identification purposes.

3. What does V1=V2=L1=L2=0 mean in a circuit?

V1=V2=L1=L2=0 is a condition that states that the voltage, inductance, and resistance in the circuit are all equal to 0. This condition is useful in simplifying the circuit's equations and finding the particular solution.

4. How do you solve for the particular solution in a circuit?

To solve for the particular solution in a circuit, you need to use the circuit's differential equations and initial conditions. First, you need to simplify the equations by using the given conditions, such as V1=V2=L1=L2=0. Then, you can solve the differential equations using various methods, such as the Laplace transform or the method of undetermined coefficients. Finally, you can use the initial conditions to find the particular solution that satisfies the circuit's equations and conditions.

5. Why is it important to find the particular solution in a circuit?

Finding the particular solution in a circuit is crucial because it allows us to determine the behavior of the circuit over time. It gives us the specific values of voltage, current, and other important parameters in the circuit at any given time. This information is vital in designing and analyzing circuits for various applications.

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