Solve Quadratic Equation for Cliff Height

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A stone is dropped from a cliff, and another stone is thrown downward 1.6 seconds later with an initial speed of 32 m/s, both hitting the water simultaneously. The equations of motion are set up to relate the distances traveled by both stones, leading to a quadratic equation. The discussion revolves around solving this quadratic to find the time it takes for the first stone to hit the water. One participant calculates the time as 2.82 seconds, while another arrives at 2.02 seconds, concluding that the cliff height is approximately 20 meters using g=10 m/s². The key takeaway is the importance of correctly solving the quadratic equation to determine the cliff height accurately.
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1. At t=0, a stone is dropped from the top of a cliff above a lake. Another stone is thrown downward 1.6 s later from the same point with an initial speed of 32 m/s. Both stones hit the water at the same instant. Find the height of the cliff.



2. d_{1}=\frac{1}{2}gt_{1}^{2}; d_{2}=v_{02}t_{2}+\frac{1}{2}gt_{2}^{2};d_{1}=d_{2}; t_{2}=t_{1}- 1.6s



3. \frac{1}{2}gt_{1}^{2}=v_{02}t_{2}+\frac{1}{2}g(t_{1}-1.6s)^{2}. \frac{1}{2}(9.81 m/s^{2})t_{1}^{2}=(32 m/s)(t_{1}-1.6s)+\frac{1}{2}(9.81 m/s^{2})(t_{1}-1.6s)^{2}. Here is where I get stuck in solving the quadratic.
 
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You should solve the equation yourself as it contains only maths. The equation will give you two values and i think one value of t1 will come negative which you must ignore.Try it :)
 
For some reason I get 2.82 seconds for t.
 
According to my calculation t comes to be 2.02 second
 
So height of cliff is 20m
 
Note i have taken g=10m/s^2
 
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