Solve the given simultaneous equations

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In summary, solving simultaneous equations involves finding the values of the variables that satisfy all equations in the system at the same time. This can be done using various methods such as substitution, elimination, or graphical representation. The goal is to determine the unique solution or solutions that make all equations true.
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##\dfrac{x+2}{y-4} +\dfrac{2(y-4)}{x+2} + 3=0##

##x-y=3##
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##\dfrac{x+2}{y-4} +\dfrac{2(y-4)}{x+2} + 3=0##
##x-y=3##

My approach, will call it brute force, i have

##y=x-3##
then,

##\dfrac{(x+2)^2+2(y-4)^2}{(x+2)(y-4)}=-3##
##(x+2)^2+2(y-4)^2=-3(x+2)(y-4)##
##(x+2)^2+2(x-7)^2=-3(x+2)(x-7)##
##x^2+4x+4+2(x^2-14x+49)+3(x^2-5x-14)=0##
##6x^2-39x+60=0##
##x_1=4, y_1=1## and ##x_2=2.5, y_2=-0.5##

there could be a much better and simpler approach that prompted my post.

cheers man!
 
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That's how most people would solve it.
 
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I don't know if it's really easier or much different, but you can use the symmetry and a substitution
##u = \frac{(x+2)}{(y-4)}## and solve ##u^2 + 3u +2 =0## with ##u= -1, -2##
switching back to x, y gives ##x = 6 - 2y## or ##x = 2-y ##
This can then be combined with the given constraint ##x-y=3## to get the two solutions.

PS: Yes, I left out some intermediate steps.
 
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## \frac{x+2}{y-4}+\frac{2(y-4)}{x+2}+3=0 ##
## \frac{x+2+2(y-4)}{y-4}+\frac{2(y-4)+x+2}{x+2}=0 \Rightarrow (x+2y-6)(x+y-2)=0 ##

and there are two systems of equations with two different solutions.
The first one is
## x+2y=6 ##
## x-y=3 ##
and the second one is
## x+y=2 ##
## x-y=3 ##.
 
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It should be stated implicitly, because of the first equation, that ##y \ne 4## and ##x \ne -2##. Then, due to the second equation, which is equivalent to y = x -3, we have to disallow x = 7 and y = -5.
 
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You cna simplify the algebra by setting [itex]a = x + 2[/itex], [itex]b = y - 4[/itex] so that [tex]\begin{split}
\frac{a}{b} + 2 \frac{b}{a} + 3 &= 0 \\
a - b &= 9 \end{split}[/tex] Then multiplying the first by [itex]ab[/itex] gives [tex]
a^2 + 3ab + 2b^2 = (a + b)(a + 2b) = 0[/tex] and thus we have two solutions, [tex]
\left.\begin{array}{rcl}
a + b &=& 0 \\
a - b &=& 9 \end{array} \right\}\quad \mbox{and}\quad \left\{\begin{array}{rcl}
a + 2b &=& 0 \\
a - b &=& 9 \end{array}\right..[/tex]
 
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FAQ: Solve the given simultaneous equations

What are simultaneous equations?

Simultaneous equations are a set of equations with multiple variables that are solved together. The solution is the set of values for the variables that satisfy all equations in the set at the same time.

How do you solve simultaneous equations?

There are several methods to solve simultaneous equations, including substitution, elimination, and graphing. The choice of method often depends on the specific equations and personal preference.

What is the substitution method?

The substitution method involves solving one of the equations for one variable and then substituting that expression into the other equation. This reduces the number of equations and variables, making it easier to solve.

What is the elimination method?

The elimination method involves adding or subtracting the equations to eliminate one of the variables. This allows you to solve for one variable first, which can then be substituted back into one of the original equations to find the other variable.

Can simultaneous equations have no solution?

Yes, simultaneous equations can have no solution if the equations represent parallel lines that never intersect. In such cases, the system is called inconsistent. Alternatively, they can have infinitely many solutions if the equations represent the same line, making the system dependent.

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