Solve the given trigonometry problem

In summary, the conversation discusses different approaches and solutions to a problem involving the equations sin x + sin y = a and cos x + cos y = a. It is determined that the solutions involve the values of a and that the equation x+y=π/2 must be satisfied. One solution involves the values x=y=π/4, while another involves exploring the value of x-y=π.
  • #1
chwala
Gold Member
2,746
387
Homework Statement
See attached
Relevant Equations
Trigonometry
1667990729700.png


text solution here;

1667990926309.png

I was solving this today...got stuck and wanted to consult here...but i eventually found the solution...any insight/alternative approach is welcome...
My approach;

...
##\sin^2y+ cos^2 y= 2a^2-2a \sin x - 2a\cos x+1##

It follows that,##2a(\sin x + \cos x)=2a^2##

##\sin x+\cos x=a##

cheers.
 
  • Like
Likes neilparker62 and anuttarasammyak
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Good job :thumbup:

I would just add a short conjecture. x and y are exchangeable in the formula given and
[tex]\sin x+\sin y + \cos x + \cos y=2a[/tex]
So we may guess
[tex]\sin x+\cos x = \sin y + \cos y=a[/tex]
 
  • Like
Likes chwala and Lnewqban
  • #3
chwala said:
sin⁡x+cos⁡x=a
By squaring
[tex]2 \sin x \cos x = a^2-1[/tex]
So[tex]x,y=\theta, \frac{\pi}{2}-\theta[/tex]where
[tex] \theta= \frac{1}{2} \sin^{-1}(a^2-1)[/tex]
 
  • Like
Likes SammyS
  • #4
anuttarasammyak said:
By squaring [tex]2 \sin x \cos x = a^2-1[/tex] So[tex]x,y=\theta, \frac{\pi}{2}-\theta[/tex]where [tex] \theta= \frac{1}{2} \sin^{-1}(a^2-1)[/tex]
Your solution is quite interesting.

Of course, the problem stated in the OP only asked that ##\sin x +\sin y ## be given in terms of ##a## .

... but to pursue your solution further:

Since ##\displaystyle \sin 2x = a^2-1##, the range of values for ##a## is limited if there is to be any real solution for ##x##..
 
  • Like
Likes anuttarasammyak and chwala
  • #5
I solve it in a different way.

1668054832135.png
I get ##\sin x+\cos x = \sqrt 2##. Can someone tell me where am I mistaken?
 
  • Like
Likes chwala and anuttarasammyak
  • #6
brotherbobby said:
I solve it in a different way.

View attachment 316966I get ##\sin x+\cos x = \sqrt 2##. Can someone tell me where am I mistaken?
Mythoughts on this...

We know that

##\sin x + \sin y = 2 \sin \dfrac {x+y}{2} ⋅ \cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

and

##\cos x + \cos y =2 \cos \dfrac{x+y} {2}⋅\cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

##⇒4⋅\sin^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right] ⋅ cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=a^2##

##⇒4⋅\cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right] ⋅ cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=a^2##

on adding the two we end up with;

##cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]\left(4⋅\sin^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right]+4⋅\cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right]\right)=2a^2##

##4⋅cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=2a^2##

##cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{2a^2}{4}##

##⇒cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##

Therefore on substituting back to our equation;

##2 \sin \dfrac {x+y}{2} ⋅ \cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

and

##2 \cos \dfrac{x+y} {2}⋅\cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

we get;

##2 \sin \dfrac {x+y}{2} ⋅ \dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}=a##

##2 \cos \dfrac{x+y} {2}⋅\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}=a##

##⇒\sin \dfrac {x+y}{2}=\dfrac{\sqrt{2}}{2}##

##⇒\cos \dfrac {x+y}{2}=\dfrac{\sqrt{2}}{2}##

##⇒x+y=\dfrac{π}{2}##

Let ##x=y## then ##x=y=\dfrac{π}{4}##

##\sin x +\cos x=\sin \dfrac{π}{4} +\cos \dfrac{π}{4}=\sqrt{2}##

but;
##⇒\cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##

since ##x=y## then;

##1=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##

##⇒a=\sqrt{2}##

Therefore;

##\sin x + \cos x= a##
 
Last edited:
  • #7
SammyS said:
Since sin⁡2x=a2−1, the range of values for a is limited if there is to be any real solution for x..
For real x
[tex]0 < |a| \leq \sqrt{2}[/tex] as a ##\neq## 0 in the problem statement.
I wonder whether and why sign of a does not matter with the solution. So as another way without squaring,
[tex]\sqrt{2}\sin(x+\frac{\pi}{4})=a[/tex]
[tex]x=\sin^{-1}\frac{a}{\sqrt{2}}-\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex]
with y
[tex]x,y=\sin^{-1}\frac{a}{\sqrt{2}}-\frac{\pi}{4},-\sin^{-1}\frac{a}{\sqrt{2}}+\frac{3\pi}{4}[/tex]
where sign of a matters.
 
Last edited:
  • #8
brotherbobby said:
I solve it in a different way.

View attachment 316966I get ##\sin x+\cos x = \sqrt 2##. Can someone tell me where am I mistaken?
[tex]x-y=\pi[/tex]
,which gives a=0 the prohibited value, does not have AND relation but OR relation with
[tex]x+y=\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex]
,which allows a to be variable, in getting the solution.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes chwala and SammyS
  • #9
chwala said:
Mythoughts on this...

We know that

##\sin x + \sin y = 2 \sin \dfrac {x+y}{2} ⋅ \cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

and

##\cos x + \cos y =2 \cos \dfrac{x+y} {2}⋅\cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

##⇒4⋅\sin^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right] ⋅ cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=a^2##

##⇒4⋅\cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right] ⋅ cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=a^2##

on adding the two we end up with;

##cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]\left(4⋅\sin^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right]+4⋅\cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x+y}{2}\right]\right)=2a^2##

##4⋅cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=2a^2##

##cos^2 \left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{2a^2}{4}##

##⇒cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##

Therefore on substituting back to our equation;

##2 \sin \dfrac {x+y}{2} ⋅ \cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

and

##2 \cos \dfrac{x+y} {2}⋅\cos \dfrac {x-y}{2}=a##

we get;

##2 \sin \dfrac {x+y}{2} ⋅ \dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}=a##

##2 \cos \dfrac{x+y} {2}⋅\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}=a##

##⇒\sin \dfrac {x+y}{2}=\dfrac{\sqrt{2}}{2}##

##⇒\cos \dfrac {x+y}{2}=\dfrac{\sqrt{2}}{2}##

##⇒x+y=\dfrac{π}{2}##

Let ##x=y## then ##x=y=\dfrac{π}{4}##

##\sin x +\cos x=\sin \dfrac{π}{4} +\cos \dfrac{π}{4}=\sqrt{2}##

but;
##⇒\cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##

since ##x=y## then;

##1=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##

##⇒a=\sqrt{2}##

Therefore;

##\sin x + \cos x= a##
That is fine, but where am I mistaken in my solution in post #5 above?

You get ##cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##.

But I get ##cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=0##.

We are both using correct math. But one of us has got to be wrong.

I agree it looks like I am. I just want to know where.

I paste my solution again. Please let me know when you get the time.

1668173882058.png
 
  • #10
anuttarasammyak said:
View attachment 317015
Fine. Let us investigate  
[tex]x-y=\pi[/tex]
[tex]a=\sin x+\sin y=\sin (\pi+y)+\sin y = -\sin y + \sin y =0[/tex]
but the problem says ##a \neq 0##. So we should avoid it and go to another possibility that you wrote after OR in your last line. This was a repeat of post #8.
Correct. Please carry on.
 
  • #11
brotherbobby said:
That is fine, but where am I mistaken in my solution in post #5 above?

You get ##cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=\dfrac{a}{\sqrt{2}}##.

But I get ##cos\left[\dfrac{x-y}{2}\right]=0##.

We are both using correct math. But one of us has got to be wrong.

I agree it looks like I am. I just want to know where.

I paste my solution again. Please let me know when you get the time.

View attachment 317014
You have $$\begin{align} & 2\sin\left(\frac{x+y}{2}\right) \cos\left(\frac{x-y}{2}\right)=a \nonumber \\ & 2\cos\left(\frac{x+y}{2}\right) \cos\left(\frac{x-y}{2}\right)=a \nonumber
\end{align}$$If you divide the top equation by the bottom, you get $$\tan\left(\frac{x+y}{2}\right)=1 \implies \frac{x+y}{2}=\frac{\pi}{4}.$$ Explore where that takes you.
 
  • Like
Likes chwala

FAQ: Solve the given trigonometry problem

What is a trigonometry problem?

A trigonometry problem is a mathematical question that involves the use of trigonometric functions, such as sine, cosine, and tangent, to find missing sides or angles in a triangle.

What are the common trigonometric functions used to solve a problem?

The most commonly used trigonometric functions are sine, cosine, and tangent. Other related functions include cosecant, secant, and cotangent.

How do I solve a trigonometry problem?

To solve a trigonometry problem, you need to identify the given information, determine which trigonometric function to use, and apply the appropriate formula. You may also need to use basic algebraic principles to solve for the missing variable.

What are some common types of trigonometry problems?

Some common types of trigonometry problems include finding missing sides or angles in right triangles, solving for unknown values using trigonometric identities, and applying trigonometric functions in real-life situations such as navigation or engineering problems.

What are some tips for solving trigonometry problems?

Some tips for solving trigonometry problems include drawing a diagram to visualize the problem, using the appropriate trigonometric ratio based on the given information, and checking your answer by using a calculator or verifying it with other methods.

Back
Top