Solve ##z^2(1-z^2)=16## using Complex numbers

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the formula for ##A^2=B^2## by manipulating the equation ##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2=0## using the complete square method. It also mentions a systematic approach for factorizing the equation and solving for the coefficients. Another approach is introduced by substituting ##w=z^2## and comparing the real and imaginary parts to obtain the solution. The purpose of this manipulation is to fit the equation into the desired form of ##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2##.
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The problem is as shown...all steps are pretty easy to follow. I need help on the highlighted part in red. How did they come to;
##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2=0## or is it by manipulating ##-z^2= 8z^2-9z^2?## trial and error ...

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The idea is to make formula of
[tex]A^2=B^2[/tex]
. Let us see.
[tex]z^4+16=z^2[/tex]
[tex](z^2+4)^2=9z^2=(3z)^2[/tex]
[tex]z^2+4=\pm 3z[/tex]
 
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A systematic approach is to factorize [tex]
z^4 - z^2 + 16 = (z^2 + Az + 4)(z^2 + Bz + 4)[/tex] and compare coefficients of powers of [itex]z[/itex] to get three equations for [itex]A[/itex] and [itex]B[/itex]: [tex]
\begin{split}
z^3 \quad &: \quad A + B = 0 \\
z^2 \quad &: \quad 8 + AB = -1 \\
z \quad &: \quad 4A + 4B = 0
\end{split}[/tex] Since the first and third are really the same equation, we can solve this system to obtain [itex](A, B) = (3, -3)[/itex].
 
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chwala said:
How did they come to

completion of the square
 
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malawi_glenn said:
completion of the square
How did they come to ##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2##?...of course the step after is complete square method...no problem there. Or it was just simply identifying that;

##-9z^2+8z^2=-z^2##
 
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chwala said:
How did they come to ##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2##?
##z^4-z^2+16 = z^4-z^2+16 + 0 = z^4-z^2+16 +8z^2 - 8z^2 = z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2 ##
 
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malawi_glenn said:
##z^4-z^2+16 = z^4-z^2+16 + 0 = z^4-z^2+16 +8z^2 - 8z^2 = z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2 ##
@malawi_glenn smart move there mate!
 
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Here's another approach. Let ##w = z^2##:$$ww^* = |w|^2 = 16\frac{|w|^2}{16} = w(1-w)\frac{|w|^2}{16}$$ $$\Rightarrow w^* = (1-w)\frac{|w|^2}{16}$$Comparing the real and imaginary parts with ##w = a + ib## gives:$$-b = -b\frac{|w|^2}{16} \Rightarrow |w|^2 = 16 \Rightarrow a^2 + b^2 = 16$$$$a = 1-a \Rightarrow a = \frac 1 2 \Rightarrow b^2 = -\frac{63}{4}$$$$\Rightarrow z^2 = \frac 1 2 \pm \frac{3\sqrt 7}{2}i$$
 
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chwala said:
@malawi_glenn smart move there mate!
And you do this in order to complete the square adding and subtracting the same thing so it fits
 
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FAQ: Solve ##z^2(1-z^2)=16## using Complex numbers

How do you solve a complex equation like ##z^2(1-z^2)=16##?

To solve this equation, we can use the quadratic formula in the form of ##z=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}##, where ##a=1##, ##b=0##, and ##c=-16##. Plugging in these values, we get ##z=\pm4##. Therefore, the solutions to the equation are ##z=4## and ##z=-4##.

Can you use the imaginary unit ##i## to solve this equation?

Yes, we can use the imaginary unit ##i## to solve this equation. We can rewrite the equation as ##z^2(1-z^2)+16=0## and then use the quadratic formula to find the solutions. However, since the equation already has complex solutions, using ##i## may not be necessary.

Are there any other methods to solve this equation using complex numbers?

Yes, there are other methods to solve this equation using complex numbers. One method is to use the substitution ##z=x+iy##, where ##x## and ##y## are real numbers, and then solve for ##x## and ##y## using the given equation. Another method is to graph the equation on the complex plane and find the points of intersection with the line ##y=16##.

How do you know if the solutions to this equation are complex numbers?

The solutions to this equation will be complex numbers if the discriminant ##b^2-4ac## is negative. In this case, the discriminant is ##0^2-4(1)(-16)=-64##, which is negative. Therefore, the solutions to the equation are complex numbers.

Can you use the conjugate of a complex number to solve this equation?

Yes, we can use the conjugate of a complex number to solve this equation. The conjugate of a complex number is the same number with the imaginary part multiplied by -1. We can use this property to simplify the equation and then solve for the complex solutions.

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