Solving Advanced Limits: 3x^2/(1-cosx) & sin(cosx)/cosx

In summary, the conversation discussed solving limits involving trigonometric functions, specifically the limit of 3x^2/(1-cosx) where x approaches 0 and the limit of sin(cosx)/cosx where x approaches pi/2. Two methods were presented: using L'Hospital's Rule and manipulating the expression to have the form of the basic limit sinx/x=1.
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kaitamasaki
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i understand the basic lim x->0 (sinx/x) = 1 thimg, but if its something more advanced I am clueless, such as:

lim 3x^2/(1-cosx) where x->0

how would you solve this one, or something like lim sin(cosx)/cosx where x-> pi/2?

thanks for any help :smile:
 
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kaitamasaki said:
i understand the basic lim x->0 (sinx/x) = 1 thimg, but if its something more advanced I am clueless, such as:

lim 3x^2/(1-cosx) where x->0

how would you solve this one, or something like lim sin(cosx)/cosx where x-> pi/2?

thanks for any help :smile:

Two ways, the first is more general, the second is more useful in this case.
1) Whenever you have a limit that turns into 0/0, use L'Hospital's Rule: Take the derivative of both the numerator and the denominator, then take your limit. So [tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x^2}{1-cosx}= \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{6x}{sinx} [/tex], which gives 0/0, so do it again: [tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{6x}{sinx} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{6}{cosx} = 6 [/tex].

2) Use the series expansion for cosine about zero: [tex] cosx = 1 -(1/2!)x^2+(1/4!)x^4-... [/tex]. Take the leading two terms in the cosine expansion and your limit turns into [tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x^2}{1-cosx} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x^2}{(1/2)x^2} =2*3=6 [/tex].

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
Two ways, the first is more general, the second is more useful in this case.
1) Whenever you have a limit that turns into 0/0, use L'Hospital's Rule: Take the derivative of both the numerator and the denominator, then take your limit. So [tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x^2}{1-cosx}= \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{6x}{sinx} [/tex], which gives 0/0, so do it again: [tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{6x}{sinx} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{6}{cosx} = 6 [/tex].
If you haven't covered L'Hopital rules yet, I'd suggest another way. By the way, L'Hopital's rule is overkill, you should not use it, though...
Since you know that:
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} = 1[/tex]. You should change your limit a little to have the form above:
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x ^ 2}{1 - \cos x}[/tex]
Since you want sin x, and you have (1 - cos x) in the denominator, you may want to multiply both numerator, and denominator by (1 + cos x)
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x ^ 2}{1 - \cos x} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x ^ 2 (1 + \cos x)}{(1 + \cos x) (1 - \cos x)} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x ^ 2 (1 + \cos x)}{\sin ^ 2 x} = 3 \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \left( \frac{x}{\sin x} \right) ^ 2 (1 + \cos x)[/tex]
Now can you go from here?
kaitamasaki said:
how would you solve this one, or something like lim sin(cosx)/cosx where x-> pi/2?
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow \frac{\pi}{2}} \frac{\sin (\cos x)}{\cos x}[/tex]
When [tex]x \rightarrow \frac{\pi}{2}[/tex], [tex]\cos x \rightarrow 0[/tex], right? So you'll have the indeterminate form 0 / 0, right?
Now, if you let u = cos x, so as x tends to [tex]\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex], u will tend to 0, right?
So you'll have:
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow \frac{\pi}{2}} \frac{\sin (\cos x)}{\cos x} = \lim_{u \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin u}{u} = ?[/tex]
Can you go from here? :)
 

FAQ: Solving Advanced Limits: 3x^2/(1-cosx) & sin(cosx)/cosx

What is the definition of a limit?

A limit is a mathematical concept that describes the behavior of a function as its input approaches a certain value. It represents the value that a function approaches, but may not necessarily reach, as the input gets closer and closer to a specific value.

How do you solve advanced limits?

To solve advanced limits, you must use various techniques such as factoring, substitution, and trigonometric identities. You also need to understand the properties and rules of limits, such as the limit laws and the squeeze theorem.

What is the limit of 3x^2/(1-cosx) as x approaches 0?

The limit of 3x^2/(1-cosx) as x approaches 0 is 0. This can be found by substituting 0 for x and simplifying the expression to get 0/0. Using L'Hopital's rule, we can take the derivative of the top and bottom to get 6x/sinx. Plugging in 0 for x again, we get 0/0. Continuing this process, we eventually get to a form that can be solved using basic trigonometric identities, giving us a limit of 0.

Can you solve limits involving trigonometric functions?

Yes, limits involving trigonometric functions can be solved using the same techniques as other limits. This may involve using trigonometric identities or applying the squeeze theorem. It is important to have a strong understanding of trigonometric functions and their properties in order to solve these types of limits.

What is the limit of sin(cosx)/cosx as x approaches pi/2?

The limit of sin(cosx)/cosx as x approaches pi/2 is undefined. This can be found by substituting pi/2 for x and simplifying the expression to get sin(0)/0. Since sin(0) is equal to 0, we get 0/0, which is undefined. This limit does not exist because the function oscillates between positive and negative infinity as x approaches pi/2 from both sides.

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