Solving Air Drag Problem with Wind: A Closer Look

In summary, the force of air drag on an object is dependent on the relative fluid velocity with respect to the object. In this conversation, the object is moving at 15 m/s and the air is moving at -2 m/s, resulting in a relative velocity of 17 m/s. The force of air drag can be calculated using the equation 1/2*drag coeff.*density of air*area*v_obj^2, and the solution is 1/2*drag coeff.*density of air*area*(v_obj+v_wind)^2. This may seem illogical, but it is because the coordinate reference is key in determining the relative velocity and force of air drag.
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Hi,

I have second doubts on air drag problem.

Let's say an object is moving with speed v_obj = 15 m/s and that the air is moving with speed v_wind = -2 m/s. What is the the force of air drag? If There would be no wind. The force would be 1/2*drag coeff.*density of air*area*v_obj^2. But with the wind blowing, should I say that there are 2 forces acting, force of wind which is 1/2*drag coeff.*density of air*area*v_wind^2 + force due to movement of the object in the air 1/2*drag coeff.*density of air*area*v_obj^2. Soo the solution is 1/2*drag coeff.*density of air*area*(v_obj+v_wind)^2. Soo the speed we use is actually 15 m/s - 2m/s. Which will give the same resoult as we would be moving trough still air with speed of 13 m/s? That doesn't seem logical to me.
 
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Drag on an object is dependent on the relative fluid velocity with respect to the object, so if a plane is moving at 15 m/s (wrt to coordinate system - e.g. ground) and the air is moving at -2 m/s (wrt same coordinate system as plane) then the relative velocity is 17 m/s, and this would be the same as plane at 17 m/s in still air.

The coordinate reference is key.
 
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Hello,

I can understand your doubts about the air drag problem and the effect of wind on it. However, your proposed solution is not entirely accurate. The force of air drag is indeed affected by the wind, but it is not simply the sum of the two forces you mentioned. It is a more complex interaction between the object's movement and the wind velocity.

To accurately calculate the force of air drag with wind, we need to consider the relative velocities of the object and the wind. This is known as the relative wind velocity. In your example, the relative wind velocity would be 15 m/s - (-2 m/s) = 17 m/s. This is the speed at which the air is moving relative to the object, taking into account the wind velocity.

The correct formula for calculating the force of air drag with wind would be 1/2 * drag coeff. * density of air * area * (v_obj - v_wind)^2. This takes into account the relative wind velocity and gives a more accurate result.

In conclusion, while the wind does affect the force of air drag, it is not as simple as adding the two forces you mentioned. It is important to consider the relative wind velocity in order to accurately calculate the force of air drag. I hope this clarifies any confusion you may have had. Please let me know if you have any further questions.
 

Related to Solving Air Drag Problem with Wind: A Closer Look

1. How does air drag affect wind?

Air drag is a force that opposes the motion of an object through the air. When wind encounters an object, such as a building or a car, the air drag force slows down the object's movement. This can result in changes in wind speed, direction, and pressure.

2. What is the main cause of air drag?

The main cause of air drag is friction between the air particles and the surface of an object. As air flows around an object, it creates a boundary layer where the air particles slow down and create drag. This drag force increases as the object moves faster, resulting in a limit to the speed an object can travel through air.

3. How can we measure air drag in wind?

Air drag in wind can be measured using various methods, such as wind tunnel experiments, computational fluid dynamics simulations, and field testing. These methods involve measuring the force and pressure exerted by the wind on an object and analyzing its effects on the object's movement.

4. How can we reduce air drag in wind?

There are several ways to reduce air drag in wind, such as streamlining the shape of an object, adding surface coatings to reduce friction, and using materials with lower drag coefficients. Designing structures and vehicles with aerodynamics in mind can greatly reduce the effects of air drag and improve their performance.

5. How does air drag impact our daily lives?

Air drag has a significant impact on our daily lives, as it affects the performance of many objects and structures, such as cars, airplanes, and buildings. Understanding and controlling air drag is crucial for designing efficient and safe structures and vehicles, as well as predicting and mitigating the effects of wind on our daily activities.

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