Solving Basic Calculus: Integrals with Logarithms and Variable Limits

In summary, the conversation revolved around an integral with the form of log(\int_{r}^{\inf}\frac{P(r,f)}{P(f)}dr), and the question of whether P(f) can be brought outside of the integral. It was determined that P(f) can be brought outside of the integral, but not outside of the log. The conversation also touched on the use of r as the variable of integration and the importance of using different names for different functions with different domains.
  • #1
pamparana
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Hello everyone,

I have an integral of the following form:

log([itex]\int_{r}^{\inf}\frac{P(r,f)}{P(f)}dr)[/itex]

Now, my question is that since the integral is wrt to r, can I bring P(f) outside. So:

[itex]\frac{1}{P(f)}[/itex]log([itex]\int_{r}^{\inf}P(r,f)dr)[/itex]

Thanks,

Luca
 
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  • #2
You can bring it outside the integral.
But you also brought it outside the log, which is wrong.
 
  • #3
Outside of the integral? Yes. Outside of the log? no.
 
  • #4
You can, of course, say
[tex]ln\left(\frac{1}{P(f)}\int P(r,f)dr\right)= ln\left(\int P(r,f)dr\right)- ln(P(f))[/tex]

By the way, it is not a good idea to use r as the lower limit of the integral and as the variable of integration.
 
  • #5
Also, since P(r, f) and P(f) appear to be different functions with different domains, they should have different names.
 
  • #6
Mark44 said:
Also, since P(r, f) and P(f) appear to be different functions with different domains, they should have different names.

It could be that [itex]P(f) \equiv P(r_0 , f)[/itex] for some fixed [itex]r_0[/itex], I've seen that used quite a lot.
 
  • #7
Thank you guys. That is very helpful. Sorry, did not intend to put it outside the log in my original post! Latex type :)

Many thanks,

Luca
 

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