Solving for dy/dx: $\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}}$

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In summary, the conversation discusses the steps to integrate $\displaystyle \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\frac{1}{7}\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}} }$ by first substituting $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = \sqrt{y} \end{align*}$ and then using the standard integrals to solve for $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u \end{align*}$ in terms of x. The conversation also mentions the need for an integration constant on both sides, which can be combined on one side later.
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$\displaystyle
\d{y}{x}=\frac{1}{7}\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}} \\
$
then
$\displaystyle dy=\frac{1}{7}\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}} \, dx$
and then
$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{\frac{1}{7}\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}} }=\frac{1}{7} \, dx$
and then ?
 
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karush said:
$\displaystyle
\d{y}{x}=\frac{1}{7}\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}} \\
$
then
$\displaystyle dy=\frac{1}{7}\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}} \, dx$
and then
$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{\frac{1}{7}\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}} }=\frac{1}{7} \, dx$
and then ?

First of all, as you have kept the $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{1}{7} \end{align*}$ on the RHS you should NOT have divided it on the left. You should have

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\sqrt{y}\,\cos^2{\left( \sqrt{y} \right) }} } &= \int{ \frac{1}{7}\,\mathrm{d}x } \\ \int{ \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{2\,\sqrt{y}\,\cos^2{ \left( \sqrt{y} \right) } } } &= \int{ \frac{1}{14}\,\mathrm{d}x } \end{align*}$

Substitute $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = \sqrt{y} \implies \mathrm{d}u = \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{2\,\sqrt{y}} \end{align*}$ giving

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{\mathrm{d}u}{\cos^2{ \left( u \right) } } } &= \int{ \frac{1}{14}\,\mathrm{d}x } \end{align*}$

These should both be easy to integrate now.
 
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\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\int{ \frac{{d}u}{\cos^2{ \left( u \right) } } } &= \int{ \frac{1}{14}\, {d}x }
\end{align*}
$\textit{using the standard integrals}$

$\displaystyle\tan\left({u}\right)=\frac{x}{14}$

$u = \sqrt{y}$

$\displaystyle\tan\left({ \sqrt{y}}\right)=\frac{x}{14}$

$\textit{done ?}$
 
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karush said:
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\int{ \frac{{d}u}{\cos^2{ \left( u \right) } } } &= \int{ \frac{1}{14}\, {d}x }
\end{align*}
$\textit{using the standard integrals}$

$\displaystyle\tan\left({u}\right)=\frac{x}{14}$

$u = \sqrt{y}$

$\displaystyle\tan\left({ \sqrt{y}}\right)=\frac{x}{14}$

$\textit{done ?}$

Plus a constant.
 
  • #5
Prove It said:
Plus a constant.
$\displaystyle\tan\left({ \sqrt{y}}\right)=\frac{x}{14}+C$

really?
 
  • #6
karush said:
$\displaystyle\tan\left({ \sqrt{y}}\right)=\frac{x}{14}+C$

really?

Technically as you have integrated on both sides, both sides need an integration constant, but since they can then be combined on one side, yes what you have here is correct.

You could then solve for y if you really wanted to...
 
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too lazy.. I leave it the way it is.😎
 

Related to Solving for dy/dx: $\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}}$

What is the process for solving for dy/dx in the equation $\sqrt{y}\cos^2{\sqrt{y}}$?

The process for solving for dy/dx in this equation involves using the chain rule and the power rule. First, the outer function, $\sqrt{y}$, is differentiated using the power rule, resulting in $\frac{1}{2\sqrt{y}}$. Then, the inner function, $\cos^2{\sqrt{y}}$, is differentiated using the chain rule, resulting in $-2\sin{\sqrt{y}}\cos{\sqrt{y}}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{y}}$. Finally, the two derivatives are multiplied together to get the final result of $\frac{-\sin{\sqrt{y}}\cos{\sqrt{y}}}{\sqrt{y}}$.

Why is the chain rule used in this equation?

The chain rule is used in this equation because the function $\cos^2{\sqrt{y}}$ is nested inside the function $\sqrt{y}$. In order to find the derivative of the outer function, the derivative of the inner function must also be taken into account.

What is the power rule and how is it used in this equation?

The power rule is a basic rule of differentiation that states that the derivative of a function raised to a power is equal to the power multiplied by the function raised to the power minus one. In this equation, the power rule is used to find the derivative of the outer function, $\sqrt{y}$, which is $\frac{1}{2\sqrt{y}}$.

Can this equation be simplified further?

Yes, this equation can be simplified further by factoring out a negative sign from the derivative of the inner function. This results in the final answer of $\frac{-\sin{\sqrt{y}}\cos{\sqrt{y}}}{\sqrt{y}}$.

What are some common mistakes made when solving for dy/dx in this equation?

Some common mistakes made when solving for dy/dx in this equation include not using the chain rule correctly, forgetting to take the derivative of the inner function, or making a mistake when applying the power rule. It is important to carefully follow the steps and double check the final answer to avoid these errors.

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