Solving for Time: Differentiating Equation for Δt

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In summary, the conversation is about finding the change in time equation for the growth of graupel. The equation given is (dm/dt)=(pi/4)((D)^2)(V(D))(LWC)(E), where D is the diameter, LWC is the liquid water content, and E is 1. The conversation includes confusion about the use of the equation, the values of the variables, and the differentiation process. The problem is to find out how long it takes for a 1mm piece of graupel to grow to 5mm.
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Homework Statement


How do you differentiate this to get a change in time equation?

we have:
(dm/dt) = (pi/4)(D^2)(V(D))(LWC)(E)

LWC = 2E-6
E=1

these two values aren't important until the very end when finding the actual time, just a plug and chug then. I'm having trouble solving for Δt!
need to get (delta t) so find the time.


Homework Equations



this is what we're looking for : Δt = ?



The Attempt at a Solution


(dm/dt)= (row)(pi/6)(3D^2)(dD/dt) = 343(pi/4)(D^2.6)(LWC)(E)
 
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DM1984 said:

Homework Statement


How do you differentiate this to get a change in time equation?

we have:
(dm/dt) = (pi/4)(D^2)(V(D))(LWC)(E)

LWC = 2E-6
E=1
This is very unclear. In fact, I am completely mystified by it.
For starters, you wouldn't differentiate this, since what you have already is a derivative.
To continue, you have a bunch of letters whose meaning you don't give. Are they variables? Do D and V(D) depend on t?

If E = 1 does it mean that LWC = 2*1 - 6 = -4?
Or are you writing 2 X 10-6?
DM1984 said:
these two values aren't important until the very end when finding the actual time, just a plug and chug then. I'm having trouble solving for Δt!
need to get (delta t) so find the time.

Homework Equations



this is what we're looking for : Δt = ?

The Attempt at a Solution


(dm/dt)= (row)(pi/6)(3D^2)(dD/dt) = 343(pi/4)(D^2.6)(LWC)(E)

What is "row" and where did it come from? Do you mean the Greek letter "rho" (## \rho##)?

How did (dm/dt) = (pi/4)(D^2)(V(D))(LWC)(E) change to (dm/dt)= (row)(pi/6)(3D^2)(dD/dt) and how is this equal to 343(pi/4)(D^2.6)(LWC)(E)?

Finally, if E = 1, why is it still being dragged along?
 
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"(dm/dt)= (row)(pi/6)(3D^2)(dD/dt)=343(pi/4)(D^2.6)(LWC)(E)"

is directly from my instructor.

yes, I meant "rho".

this is for graupel growth. trying to find out how long it takes for a 1mm piece of graupel to grow to 5mm.

The original equation is (dm/dt)=(pi/4)((D)^2)(V(D))(LWC)(E)

D= diameter
LWC = liquid water content = 2 x 10^-6 g/cm^3
E = 1.0
rho = 0.6 g/cm^3
 
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DM1984 said:
"(dm/dt)= (row)(pi/6)(3D^2)(dD/dt)=343(pi/4)(D^2.6)(LWC)(E)"

is directly from my instructor.

yes, I meant "rho".

this is for graupel growth. trying to find out how long it takes for a 1mm piece of graupel to grow to 5mm.

The original equation is (dm/dt)=(pi/4)((D)^2)(V(D))(LWC)(E)

D= diameter
LWC = liquid water content = 2 x 10^-6 g/cm^3
E = 1.0
rho = 0.6 g/cm^3

You never really answered Mark his questions, so I'll ask them again:

How does (dm/dt)= (row)(pi/6)(3D^2)(dD/dt)=343(pi/4)(D^2.6)(LWC)(E) change to (dm/dt)=(pi/4)((D)^2)(V(D))(LWC)(E)?

Do any of the variable D, LWC, V and other depend on t?

Why would you differentiate something if you're already given a derivative??

Why drag E along if E=1?

Can you present us with the exact problem description as it is given to you??
 

FAQ: Solving for Time: Differentiating Equation for Δt

How do you solve for time using differentiation?

To solve for time using differentiation, you need to have an equation that relates time to other variables, such as distance, velocity, or acceleration. Then, you can use the rules of differentiation to find the derivative of the equation with respect to time. Finally, you can set the derivative equal to the desired value and solve for time.

What is the purpose of differentiating the equation for time?

The purpose of differentiating the equation for time is to find the rate of change of time with respect to another variable. This can be useful in solving problems involving motion, such as finding the time it takes for an object to reach a certain distance or velocity.

Can you use differentiation to find time in any type of equation?

Yes, you can use differentiation to find time in any equation that relates time to other variables. This can include equations from physics, mathematics, or other fields where time is a variable.

What are the key steps in solving for time using differentiation?

The key steps in solving for time using differentiation are:

  1. Identifying an equation that relates time to other variables.
  2. Finding the derivative of the equation with respect to time.
  3. Setting the derivative equal to the desired value.
  4. Solving for time.

Are there any limitations to using differentiation to solve for time?

While differentiation can be a powerful tool in solving for time, there are some limitations. It can only be used for equations that are differentiable, meaning they have a well-defined derivative. Additionally, it may not always be the most efficient or practical method for solving for time in certain situations.

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