Solving Inequality Problem 5: xyz=1

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Keep up the good work!In summary, the conversation discusses two inequalities involving positive real numbers x, y, and z with the condition that xyz=1. The first inequality states that 27≤(1+x+y)^2+(1+y+z)^2+(1+z+x)^2, with equality only when x=y=z=1. The second inequality states that (1+x+y)^2+(1+y+z)^2+(1+z+x)^2≤3(x+y+z)^2, with equality only when x=y=z=1. The conversation provides hints on how to prove these inequalities using the AM-GM-HM inequality and simplifying the expressions. The equality cases are also discussed and solved for both inequalities.
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5. Suppose that x, y and z are positive real numbers such that xyz = 1.
(a) Prove that
27 [itex]\leq[/itex](1 + x + y)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + (1 + y + z)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + (1 + z + x)[itex]^{2}[/itex]

with equality if and only if x = y = z = 1.
(b) Prove that
(1 + x + y)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + (1 + y + z)[itex]^{2}[/itex] + (1 + z + x)[itex]^{2}[/itex] [itex]\leq[/itex] 3(x + y + z)[itex]^{2}[/itex]

with equality if and only if x = y = z = 1.

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really how to prove this. I can visualize the truth in my head but I don't know where to start a proof. Does anyone know any particular methods to solve symmetric equalities such as this one? I'm trying to see a nice way to simplify it or introduce a substitution but i can't see anything. Thanks
 
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You know that xyz=1 so that would be a good start. And also the sqrt could be taken on each side and then you just subsittute till you have something which you know is greater than [itex]\sqrt{27}[/itex]
 
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Hints:

5. (a) Rewriting the expressions a bit, can you equivalently prove that [tex](x+1)^2 + (y+1)^2 + (z+1)^2 + xy + yz + zx \geq 15[/tex]

5. (b) Put [tex] x + y + z = S_1[/tex]
[tex] xy + yz + zx = S_2[/tex]

and rewrite the expressions.

Now can you equivalently prove that
[tex] 2S_2 \geq 4S_1 + 3 - S_1^2[/tex]
 
  • #4
ok i can see how you rearranged the first inequality but i still don't know where to go from there ? ? ? And may i ask where the inspiration came from to arrange the inequality in that way? Sorry, i don't have much experience solving this kind of problem, so any tips would help immensely! Thanks
 
  • #5
The idea is to apply the AM-GM-HM inequality at some stage or the other. If you keep that in mind, you can try to manipulate the expressions accordingly.

Can you see that


[tex](x+1)^2 \geq 4x[/tex]
[tex](y+1)^2 \geq 4y[/tex]
[tex](z+1)^2 \geq 4z[/tex]

Can you try to complete the proof now? Let me know if you need more help.
 
  • #6
Oh yes i can see, it comes from the fact that (x-1)^2 ≥ 0
So logically it seems to me to try prove

4x + 4y + 4z + xy + yz +xz ≥ 15

Applying AM-GM we get :

(4x + 4y + 4z) ≥ 12

So now we have

xy + yz + zx ≥ 3

which is equivalent to

1/x + 1/y + 1/z ≥ 3

Now I am stuck :P
 
  • #7
A simpler way to complete the proof is to use the following facts:
[tex] x + y + z \geq 3 [/tex] and [tex] xy + yz + zx \geq 3 [/tex]

These facts follow from the AM-GM-HM inequality:

[tex] \frac{x+y+z}{3} \geq (xyz)^{\frac{1}{3}} \geq \frac{3}{\frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{z}}[/tex]

Which means, [tex] \frac{x+y+z}{3} \geq 1 \geq \frac{3}{xy + yz + zx}[/tex]

[From the above line, your required proof also follows immediately!]
 
  • #8
dibyendu said:
Now can you equivalently prove that
[tex] 2S_2 \geq 4S_1 + 3 - S_1^2[/tex]

I tried doing that, however i got 2S_1 rather than 4S_1, did you make an error calculating or was that me?
 
  • #9
Please check my calculations. I did it in a hurry.

We are required TPT [tex] (S_1 - x + 1)^2 + (S_1 - y + 1)^2 + (S_1 - z + 1)^2 \leq 3S_1^2[/tex]

Simplifying, we find that we are required TPT
[tex] S_1^2 - 2S_2 \leq 2S_1^2 - 4S_1 - 3 [/tex]
i.e., TPT [tex] 2S_2 \geq 4S_1 + 3 - S_1^2[/tex]
 
  • #10
sorry, yes, you're completely right, i must have made a mistake. Ok so is this logic ok?
2S2 ≥ 3 + S1(4-S1)
Well we already know that S1≥3 and S2 ≥ 3
So 2S2 ≥ 6
On the other hand, if we wish to maximise the right hand side of the equation, we want S1 to be its minimum, 3, hence the maximum value of the r.h.s. = 3 + 3(4-3) =6
So minimum l.h.s. = 6, max r.h.s. = 6, hence l.h.s. ≥ r.h.s
Equality occurs if x = y = z = 1, because at these values, the min and max, respectively, occur.
Is that rigorous enough a proof? I still didnt manage to prove that equality occurs if and only if x =y =z =1? Thanks
 
  • #11
Observe that
[tex] 4S_1 + 3 - S_1^2 = 7 - (S_1 - 2)^2 [/tex]

Since [tex] S_1 \geq 3[/tex] the RHS is always [tex] \leq 6 [/tex]

Finally the LHS is always [tex] \geq 6 [/tex] and the RHS is always [tex] \leq 6 [/tex], which completes the proof.

You can solve the equality case by considering the equations [tex] LHS = RHS = 6 [/tex]
 
  • #12
Ah ok cool, I had tried factoring and leaving a seven outside too before going back and corssing out my work, but I think be both came to the same conclusion. Many thanks for your help dibyendu!
 
  • #13
You are most welcome, Evansmiley. It's my pleasure.
 

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