Solving Laplace's Equation in Polar Coordinates

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In summary, the conversation discusses converting from rectangular coordinates to polar coordinates and deducing Laplace's equation from the cartesian form. The process involves using the chain rule and sorting out notation. It is mentioned that Laplace's equation is usually written with respect to x and y coordinates, rather than x and t.
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Let u=u(x,t). Then laplace's equation is u''(x) + u''(t)=0 I want to switch to polar co-0rdinates so u=u(r,theta) and deduce laplace's equation from the cartesian form.

I tried using the chain rule but couldn't quite get there.
 
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First, "u''(x)" and "u''(t)" is bad notation. What you have written implies that u is a function of a single variable and that you have chosen to call that variable "x" in one case and "t" in the other. What you mean should be written as [tex]u_{xx}+ u_{tt}= 0[/tex].

You convert from rectangular coordinates to polar coordinates using the chain rule.

$\dfrac{\partial u}{\partial x}= \dfrac{\partial u}{\partial r}\dfrac{\partial r}{\partial x}+ \dfrac{\partial u}{\partial \theta}\dfrac{\partial \theta}{\partial x}$

Of course, $r= (x^2+ t^2)^{1/2}$ so that

$\dfrac{\partial r}{\partial x}= (1/2)(x^2+ t^2)^{-1/2}(2x)= \dfrac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+ t^2}}= \dfrac{r \cos(\theta)}{r}= \cos(\theta)$

and $\theta= \arctan(t/x)$ so that

$\dfrac{\partial \theta}{\partial x}= \dfrac{1}{1+ t^2/x^2}(-t/x^2)= \dfrac{-t}{x^2+ t^2}= \dfrac{-r \sin(\theta)}{r^2}= -\dfrac{1}{r}\sin(\theta)$

Now repeat that to get $\partial^2 u/\partial x^2$ in terms of r and $\theta$ and do the same thing for the derivatives with respect to t.

(Your choice of "t", which more often represents "time", as the second variable is a little odd. Normally, if you want to change to polar coordinates you are thinking of a geometric situation with x and y coordinates. You are, of course, welcome to use whatever letters you want but I have used $t= r \sin(\theta)$.)
 
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Poirot said:
Let u=u(x,t). Then laplace's equation is u''(x) + u''(t)=0 I want to switch to polar co-0rdinates so u=u(r,theta) and deduce laplace's equation from the cartesian form.

I tried using the chain rule but couldn't quite get there.

You could start by sorting out your notation. Laplace's equation is usually written

\[u_{xx}(x,y)+u_{yy}(x,y)=0\]

or:

\[\nabla^2 u=0 \]

\(t\) usually represents time and does not appear in Laplace's equation.You seem to be conflating Laplace's equation with the wave equation. Could you please post the original question exactly as asked?

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I can't see your latex properly. It' still all code.
 
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FAQ: Solving Laplace's Equation in Polar Coordinates

What is Laplace's equation in polar coordinates?

Laplace's equation in polar coordinates is a partial differential equation that describes the relationship between the values of a function at any given point in a two-dimensional space and the average of its values on a circle centered at that point. It is used to solve problems in electrostatics, fluid dynamics, and other areas of physics and engineering.

Why is it important to solve Laplace's equation in polar coordinates?

Solving Laplace's equation in polar coordinates allows us to find the solutions to various physical problems involving circular symmetry, such as the electric potential around a charged disk or the velocity field of a spinning fluid. It also provides a deeper understanding of the fundamental principles of physics and mathematics.

What are the steps to solve Laplace's equation in polar coordinates?

The steps to solve Laplace's equation in polar coordinates typically involve setting up the equation, applying boundary conditions, separating variables, solving for the radial and angular components, and combining them to find the final solution. These steps are explained in detail in the guide.

Are there any common mistakes when solving Laplace's equation in polar coordinates?

Some common mistakes when solving Laplace's equation in polar coordinates include incorrectly applying the boundary conditions, not separating the variables properly, and making errors in the algebraic manipulation of the equations. It is important to carefully follow each step and double-check the calculations to avoid these mistakes.

Can Laplace's equation be solved using other coordinate systems?

Yes, Laplace's equation can also be solved using other coordinate systems, such as Cartesian or spherical coordinates. However, the solutions in polar coordinates may be more useful for problems involving circular symmetry. It is important to choose the most appropriate coordinate system for the specific problem at hand.

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