Solving Limits: $\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}-sin{y}}{x-y}

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The discussion revolves around solving the limit $\lim_{x\rightarrow y}\frac{\sin{x}-\sin{y}}{x-y}$. Participants suggest using trigonometric identities and L'Hôpital's rule to simplify the expression. One user points out the importance of correctly applying the sine difference identity, which can help in breaking down the limit. Another participant emphasizes that L'Hôpital's rule might be a simpler approach to tackle the limit problem. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in mathematical notation and the application of relevant mathematical techniques.
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\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}-sin{y}}{x-y}

so this is the question.

I'm here solving this problem you please check where am i wrong or next idea I've to use here.
=\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}-sin{y}}{x-y}x\frac{cos{x}+cos{y}}{cos{x}+cos{y}}
=\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x}cos{y}-cos{x}sin{y}}{{x-y}{cos{x}+cos{y}}
=\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x-y}}{{x-y}{cos{x}+cos{y}} +\fracsin{x-y}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})}[/tex]

after this i don't 've idea wht to do.Is there next idea we have to include overhere?
 
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Laven said:
\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}-sin{y}}{x-y}

so this is the question.

I'm here solving this problem you please check where am i wrong or next idea I've to use here.
=\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}-sin{y}}{x-y}\frac{cos{x}+cos{y}}{cos{x}+cos{y}}
The "x" you had in the middle here was just "times" wasn't it? Better not to use such a symbol along with"x" as a variable.

=\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x}cos{y}-cos{x}sin{y}}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})}<br /> =\lim_{x\rightarrow y}\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x-y}}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})} +\frac{sin(x-y)}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})}<br /> <br /> after this i don&#039;t &#039;ve idea wht to do.Is there next idea we have to include overhere?[/QUOTE]<br /> I think I have corrected your LaTex properly. sin(x- y)= sin(x)cos(y)- cos(x)sin(y) and you appear to be trying to put the numerator in that form. (It would be a good idea to explain things like that when asking about a problem.) You wind up with two parts:<br /> \frac{sin x cos y- cos x sin y}{x- y}= \frac{sin(x-y)}{x- y} <br /> which goes to 1 as x goes to y, and <br /> \frac{sin x cos x- sin y cos y}{x- y}<br /> which is still a problem.<br /> <br /> It would be far simpler to use L&#039;Hopital&#039;s rule. Are you allowed to do that?
 
\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}-sin{y}}{x-y}

so this is the question.

I'm here solving this problem you please check where am i wrong or next idea I've to use here.
=\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}-sin{y}}{x-y}*\frac{cos{x}+cos{y}}{cos{x}+cos{y}}
=\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x}cos{y}-cos{x}sin{y}}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})}
=\lim_{x\rightarrowy}\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x-y}}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})} +\fracsin{x-y}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})}

after this i don't 've idea wht to do.Is there next idea we have to include over
here?
 
HallsofIvy said:
The "x" you had in the middle here was just "times" wasn't it? Better not to use such a symbol along with"x" as a variable.

=\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x}cos{y}-cos{x}sin{y}}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})}<br /> =\lim_{x\rightarrow y}\frac{sin{x}cos{x}-sin{y}cos{y}+sin{x-y}}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})} +\frac{sin(x-y)}{(x-y)(cos{x}+cos{y})}<br /> <br /> after this i don&#039;t &#039;ve idea wht to do.Is there next idea we have to include overhere?
<br /> I think I have corrected your LaTex properly. sin(x- y)= sin(x)cos(y)- cos(x)sin(y) and you appear to be trying to put the numerator in that form. (It would be a good idea to explain things like that when asking about a problem.) You wind up with two parts:<br /> \frac{sin x cos y- cos x sin y}{x- y}= \frac{sin(x-y)}{x- y} <br /> which goes to 1 as x goes to y, and <br /> \frac{sin x cos x- sin y cos y}{x- y}<br /> which is still a problem.<br /> <br /> It would be far simpler to use L&#039;Hopital&#039;s rule. Are you allowed to do that?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Yea that&#039;s what i meant to express in latex form.Thanks for your correction.<br /> <br /> Isn&#039;t it solved by that method?[method which i did]<br /> <br /> Umm..L&#039;Hopital&#039;s rule is it the best way to solve the problem?Thanks I don&#039;t &#039;ve idea bout that but i can get it after reading this rule.If not i&#039;ll again ask you.
 
Laven said:
Umm..L'Hopital's rule is it the best way to solve the problem?Thanks I don't 've idea bout that but i can get it after reading this rule.If not i'll again ask you.

Hi Laven! :smile:

You need to learn your trigonometric identities …

in this case sinx - siny = 2 sin((x - y)/2) cos((x + y)/2) :wink:
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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