Solving Odd Dynamics Problem with 2 lb/ft Spring & 10 lb Bob

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In summary, the conversation is about finding the angle theta given the spring's 2 lb/ft and the bob's tangential velocity of 6 ft/s and weight of 10 lb. The person tried to find the centripetal acceleration but was unsuccessful and found the solution manual confusing. The manual sets up the force of the spring as 20(l-2) lb, with l being the length of the spring. They then use this force in the formula for centripetal acceleration, a_{c}=\frac{v^{2}}{r}=\frac{36}{0.5+lsin(\theta)}, where l is the length of the spring and 0.5 is added to account for the unst
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The spring has a 2 lb/ft, and the bob has a tangental velocity of 6 ft/s, and a weight of 10 lb.
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I need to find the angle theta.

I decided to try getting the centripetal acceleration first:
[tex]a_{c}=\frac{v^{2}}{r}=\frac{36}{r}[/tex]

which led me nowhere. I tried a mess of things.

The best I could come up with was a triangle with three unknowns, the hypotenuse of which was the spring.

The solution manual is quite confusing.
Let l be the length of the spring
It sets up the force of the spring as this:
[tex]F_{spring}=ks=20(l-2) lb[/tex]
I don't get where they got l-2 from.

Then it goes on to this:
[tex]a_{c}=\frac{v^{2}}{r}=\frac{36}{0.5+lsin(\theta)}[/tex]

The rest of it is simple enough to understand, it's just messing with the net forces. The setup of this is what I don't get. How did they arrive at that formula for the spring force, and then stick it into r like that?
 
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Hi Lancelot59! :smile:
Lancelot59 said:
I don't get where they got l-2 from.

2 feet must be the unstretched length of the spring (so l - 2 is the extension) :wink:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi Lancelot59! :smile:


2 feet must be the unstretched length of the spring (so l - 2 is the extension) :wink:

I see. So that's the spring's displacement.

How did they derive that expression for r then? I understand where the lsin(theta) term comes from, but why are they adding 0.5? Would it not be 6?
 
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Lancelot59 said:
why are they adding 0.5? Would it not be 6?

erm :redface:

feet! :biggrin:
 
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tiny-tim said:
erm :redface:

feet! :biggrin:

Oh! I see. I don't usually work with the imperial system. Thanks!
 

FAQ: Solving Odd Dynamics Problem with 2 lb/ft Spring & 10 lb Bob

What is the formula for calculating the period of oscillation for a spring-mass system?

The formula for calculating the period of oscillation for a spring-mass system is T = 2π√(m/k), where T is the period, m is the mass of the object attached to the spring, and k is the spring constant. This formula applies to the given scenario of a 2 lb/ft spring and 10 lb bob.

How does adding weight to the spring affect the period of oscillation?

Adding weight to the spring increases the period of oscillation. This is because the added weight increases the mass of the system, making it take longer to complete one full oscillation. In this scenario, increasing the weight of the 10 lb bob would result in a longer period of oscillation.

Can the period of oscillation be affected by the length of the spring?

Yes, the period of oscillation can be affected by the length of the spring. A longer spring will have a longer period of oscillation compared to a shorter spring with the same mass and spring constant. In this case, if the length of the 2 lb/ft spring is increased, the period of oscillation will also increase.

What is the role of the spring constant in determining the period of oscillation?

The spring constant is a measure of the stiffness of the spring and it determines the period of oscillation. A higher spring constant means a stiffer spring, which results in a shorter period of oscillation. In the given scenario, a spring constant of 2 lb/ft results in a shorter period of oscillation compared to a lower spring constant like 1 lb/ft.

How can the amplitude of oscillation be affected in this system?

The amplitude of oscillation can be affected by changing the initial displacement of the mass from its equilibrium position. A larger initial displacement will result in a larger amplitude of oscillation. However, the period of oscillation will remain the same as long as the mass and spring constant are constant. In this scenario, a larger initial displacement of the 10 lb bob would result in a larger amplitude of oscillation.

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