Solving Partial differential equation

In summary, the conversation discusses an attempt to solve a nonlinear ordinary differential equation by integrating in PDE's, but encountering difficulties due to the function being solely dependent on y. Suggestions are made to use an integrating factor or a substitution to convert the equation into a first order ODE, but no clear solution is reached. The possibility of a power series solution is also mentioned.
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AHSAN MUJTABA
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Homework Statement
solve the equation for $$\frac{\partial^{2}\psi(\sqrt{g} y)}{\partial y^{2}}=(\frac{sin^{2}(\sqrt{g}y)}{g}-\frac{2E}{\omega})\psi(\sqrt{g}y)$$.
Relevant Equations
The boundary conditions are $$\psi(\frac{\pi}{2})=0$$ and $$\psi(\frac{-\pi}{2})=0$$. I know the values of ##\frac{E}{\omega}##
I have tried to do it in standard way by integrating in PDE's but it turned out that ##\psi## is a function of y, so now I have no clue to start this. I know the range of ##\sqrt {g}y## from ##\frac{-\pi}{2}## to ##\frac{\pi}{2}##
 
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AHSAN MUJTABA said:
Homework Statement:: solve the equation for $$\frac{\partial^{2}\psi(\sqrt{g} y)}{\partial y^{2}}=(\frac{sin^{2}(\sqrt{g}y)}{g}-\frac{2E}{\omega})\psi\sqrt{g}y$$.
Relevant Equations:: The boundary conditions are $$\psi(\frac{\pi}{2}=0$$ and $$\psi(\frac{-\pi}{2})=0$$. I know the values of ##\frac{E}{\omega}##

I have tried to do it in standard way by integrating in PDE's but it turned out that ##\psi## is a function of y, so now I have no clue to start this. I know the range of ##\sqrt {g}y## from ##\frac{-\pi}{2}## to ##\frac{\pi}{2}##
Since ##\phi## is apparently a function of y alone, it seems to me that you're not dealing with a partial differential equation -- just an ordinary differential equation. An integrating factor might work.
 
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Mark44 said:
Since ##\phi## is apparently a function of y alone, it seems to me that you're not dealing with a partial differential equation -- just an ordinary differential equation. An integrating factor might work.
If I just double integrate this equation on y, you mean that?
 
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I was thinking of some series solutions but I have to solve it properly
 
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AHSAN MUJTABA said:
If I just double integrate this equation on y, you mean that?
No, that's not what I mean. I would first do a substitution -- Let ##u = \sqrt g y## -- and then get a DE that looks like this:
##\frac{d^2 \phi(u)}{du^2} - (\frac{\sin^2(u)} u - \frac {2E} \omega)\phi(u) = 0##
It won't look exactly like this, because there are some factors that I've omitted that come from the chain rule.

This is an ordinary differential equation, not a PDE, but it's nonlinear. I don't have any ideas for attacking it at the moment.
 
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I have tried to attack it with the same strategy but since ##\phi(u)## at the end creates a high problem for solving this.
 
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Can I substitute appropriately to make it a first order ode?
 
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AHSAN MUJTABA said:
Can I substitute appropriately to make it a first order ode?
No, because you have ##\phi''## and ##\phi## in the equation.
 
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Is there going to be a power series solution?
 

FAQ: Solving Partial differential equation

What is a partial differential equation (PDE)?

A partial differential equation is a mathematical equation that involves multiple independent variables and their partial derivatives. It describes the relationship between a function and its partial derivatives, and is used to model many physical phenomena in science and engineering.

What is the difference between a partial differential equation and an ordinary differential equation?

A partial differential equation involves multiple independent variables and their partial derivatives, while an ordinary differential equation involves only one independent variable and its derivatives. PDEs are used to model systems that vary in multiple dimensions, while ODEs are used for systems that vary in a single dimension.

What are some common techniques for solving partial differential equations?

Some common techniques for solving PDEs include separation of variables, method of characteristics, finite difference methods, and numerical methods such as finite element analysis and finite volume methods. The choice of technique depends on the specific PDE and its boundary conditions.

What are boundary conditions in the context of solving partial differential equations?

Boundary conditions are conditions that must be satisfied at the boundaries of the domain in which the PDE is being solved. They provide additional information about the behavior of the system and are necessary for obtaining a unique solution. Examples of boundary conditions include specifying the values of the function at the boundaries or setting the value of its derivative at the boundaries.

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PDEs are used to model a wide range of physical phenomena in fields such as physics, engineering, and economics. They are used to study heat transfer, fluid dynamics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, and many other systems. PDEs are also used in image and signal processing, financial modeling, and many other areas of science and engineering.

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