Solving Probability Problems: Three Urgent Scenarios

In summary: Pr(A) and \Pr(B) is larger, it is still no bigger than \Pr(A \cup B) .Second, you need to show that \Pr(A \cup B) \le \max(\Pr(A) + \Pr(B), 1)
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kingsu
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Three Probability Problems urgent

Q1.Prove that

max[P(A),P(B)]<=P(A[tex]\cup[/tex]B)<=min[P(A)+P(B),1]


Q2.A man is given n keys of which one fits the lock.He tries them successively without replacement.Find the probability that at the nth trial the lock will open.Also determine the expected numbers of trials.

Q3.Thousand tickets are sold in a lottery in which there is one prize of Rs.500,four prizes of Rs.100 each & five prizes of Rs. 10 each.A ticket costs Rs.1.If X is your net gain when you buy one ticket,find E(X).
 
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General comments - if these don't help, show some work with your next post.

1. What do you know about the comparisons of both [tex] A [/tex] and [tex] B [/tex] as events to the single event [tex] A \cup B [/tex]? this, together with a basic probability of probability of events, should give the first portion of the inequality. For the second portion of the inequality, think about 2 more things: the Addition rule and the maximum value of probability.

2. If I understand the first question correctly, think about this: if you have 4 keys, and begin trying them, what can you say about the chance the door will be unlocked after you try all the keys? (I'm thinking I don't understand your question, because this idea seems too easy).
For the expected value portion: pick one or two specific cases and work out the exact distribution (find the probability the first key alone works, that you need to try 2, that you need to try 3, etc.) and calculate the expected value. You should see a pattern to generalize. It's not the most direct approach, but may be the most informative

3. You can write the percentages of tickets in each category: the net winnings are calculated based on face value minus cost of purchase. Set up the distribution (make sure you consider all cases and that the probabilities sum to 1) then calculate the expected value.

Without some demonstrated calculations - that's all you get.
 
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statdad said:
General comments - if these don't help, show some work with your next post.

1. What do you know about the comparisons of both [tex] A [/tex] and [tex] B [/tex] as events to the single event [tex] A \cup B [/tex]? this, together with a basic probability of probability of events, should give the first portion of the inequality. For the second portion of the inequality, think about 2 more things: the Addition rule and the maximum value of probability.

2. If I understand the first question correctly, think about this: if you have 4 keys, and begin trying them, what can you say about the chance the door will be unlocked after you try all the keys? (I'm thinking I don't understand your question, because this idea seems too easy).
For the expected value portion: pick one or two specific cases and work out the exact distribution (find the probability the first key alone works, that you need to try 2, that you need to try 3, etc.) and calculate the expected value. You should see a pattern to generalize. It's not the most direct approach, but may be the most informative

3. You can write the percentages of tickets in each category: the net winnings are calculated based on face value minus cost of purchase. Set up the distribution (make sure you consider all cases and that the probabilities sum to 1) then calculate the expected value.

Without some demonstrated calculations - that's all you get.

Even I c'nt understand the first question.The question is found the same in a magazine.

Plz help me.

Thanks fr suggestion of 2nd & 3rd ques.
 
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The first question means this:
Suppose you have two events [tex] A, B [/tex]. You need to show two things: first, that

[tex]
\max(\Pr(A), \Pr(B)) \le \Pr(A \cup B)
[/tex]

- this means that whichever of [tex] \Pr(A) [/tex] and [tex] \Pr(B) [/tex] is larger, it is still no bigger than [tex] \Pr(A \cup B) [/tex].

Second, you need to show that

[tex]
\Pr(A \cup B) \le \max(\Pr(A) + \Pr(B), 1)
[/tex]

This statement tells you that [tex] \Pr(A \cup B ) [/tex] is always less-than-or-equal-to the larger of [tex] \Pr(A) + \Pr(B) [tex] and [tex] 1 [/tex].

You do need to have some experience working with probability as well as the associated knowledge of its properties. If you haven't had a probability class you should look for a basic text: if you are in a class this is probably homework and you need to show, or explain, what work you've tried.
 
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sorry - missed a slash. My previous post should end
the smaller of
[tex] \Pr(A) + \Pr(B) [/tex] and [tex] 1 [/tex].
 
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statdad said:
sorry - missed a slash. My previous post should end
the smaller of
[tex] \Pr(A) + \Pr(B) [/tex] and [tex] 1 [/tex].

statdad said:
The first question means this:
Suppose you have two events [tex] A, B [/tex]. You need to show two things: first, that

[tex]
\max(\Pr(A), \Pr(B)) \le \Pr(A \cup B)
[/tex]

- this means that whichever of [tex] \Pr(A) [/tex] and [tex] \Pr(B) [/tex] is larger, it is still no bigger than [tex] \Pr(A \cup B) [/tex].

Second, you need to show that

[tex]
\Pr(A \cup B) \le \max(\Pr(A) + \Pr(B), 1)
[/tex]

This statement tells you that [tex] \Pr(A \cup B ) [/tex] is always less-than-or-equal-to the larger of [tex] \Pr(A) + \Pr(B) [tex] and [tex] 1 [/tex].

You do need to have some experience working with probability as well as the associated knowledge of its properties. If you haven't had a probability class you should look for a basic text: if you are in a class this is probably homework and you need to show, or explain, what work you've tried.




The Attempt at a Solution




We have P(A [tex]\cup[/tex] B)=P(A)+[P(b)-P(A[tex]\bigcap[/tex]B)]
=P(B)+[P(A)-P(A[tex]\bigcap[/tex]B)]

Then Can we say P(A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]B)[tex]\leq[/tex]max[P(A),P(B)] ?

Plz help me.


For the second part

We have

0[tex]\leq[/tex]P(A)[tex]\leq[/tex]1

and

0[tex]\leq[/tex]P(B)[tex]\leq[/tex]1


Then min[P(A)+P(B),1]=P(A)+P(B).

So we have to prove P(A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]B)[tex]\leq[/tex]P(A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]B)

P(A)=P(A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]B)-[P(P(B)-P(A[tex]\bigcap[/tex]B)]

and

P(B)=P(A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]B)-[P(P(A)-P(A[tex]\bigcap[/tex]B)]

Then,

P(A)+P(B)=P(A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]B)+P(A[tex]\bigcap[/tex]B)

Hence can we say

P(A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]B)[tex]\leq[/tex]min[P(A)+P(B),1]

Plz help me.
 
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The Attempt at a Solution

for my 2nd question[/B]

The man has n keys of which 1 is the right key.We are to find the probability that the lock will open at nth trail.

So there are 1 right key for the lock and (n-1) other keys.

Then total number of event points is (n-1)*(n-2)*(n-3)*...4*3*2*1


The required event means that the right key is found at the nth trail(last trails) and (n-1) remaining keys are found at the preceding (n-1) trails.

Then I cannot understand the no of favorable points.

Please help me.
 
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Have you done inequalities? You know that [tex] \forall A \quad Pr(A) \geq 0[/tex] use that and also [tex] Pr(A)+Pr(B) \leq 2max(Pr(A),Pr(B))[/tex]. Remember that [tex] a-b \leq a[/tex] for [tex] b\geq0[/tex]
 
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kingsu said:

The Attempt at a Solution

for my 2nd question[/B]

The man has n keys of which 1 is the right key.We are to find the probability that the lock will open at nth trail.

So there are 1 right key for the lock and (n-1) other keys.

Then total number of event points is (n-1)*(n-2)*(n-3)*...4*3*2*1The required event means that the right key is found at the nth trail(last trails) and (n-1) remaining keys are found at the preceding (n-1) trails.

Then I cannot understand the no of favorable points.

Please help me.
Sorry I think my previous idea is wrong

The Sample space will contain points

n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)......{n-(n-1)}Since the lock opens at nth trails then the favorable cases are

(n-1)(n-2)(n-3).....{n-(n-1)}

Then the required probability is 1/n.Am I right?

Also see my attempt of the first question.
 
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1. What are the three probability problems?

The three probability problems are the Monty Hall problem, the Birthday problem, and the Sleeping Beauty problem.

2. What is the Monty Hall problem?

The Monty Hall problem is a probability puzzle based on the popular game show "Let's Make a Deal." In this problem, a contestant is presented with three doors, one of which has a valuable prize behind it. The contestant chooses a door, and then the host, who knows which door has the prize, opens one of the remaining doors to reveal that it does not have the prize. The contestant is then given the option to switch their choice to the remaining unopened door. The question is, should the contestant switch or stick with their original choice?

3. What is the Birthday problem?

The Birthday problem, also known as the Birthday paradox, is a probability problem that involves calculating the likelihood of two people in a group sharing the same birthday. Surprisingly, in a group of just 23 people, there is a 50% chance that two people will have the same birthday.

4. What is the Sleeping Beauty problem?

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5. How do these probability problems challenge our understanding of probability?

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