Solving Rotary Friction Problem at Ye Olde Swinging Door

In summary, a door that is opened at a position 75 degrees from the latch and then moved to a position 60 degrees from the latch slowly closes on its own. There is another possible cause besides a sloping floor, which is rust, dirt, and moisture accumulation on the hinges.
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Homework Statement: A door opened at 75 degrees from the latch remains at rest. When moved to a position 60 degrees from the latch, it slowly closes on its own. Is there another possible cause besides a sloping floor?
Relevant Equations: \tau = r x F; v = \omega x r; a_T = \alpha x r, where all quantities are vectors.

I'm in a house with repurposed parts. I'd like those with physical intuition to look at a problem involving rotary friction. Thanks in advance!
 
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The issue COULD be with the hinges. Have you tried oiling the hinges to see if that makes any difference?
 
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Argh! @phinds preempted me. I had this happen to me until I oiled the hinges.
 
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Good suggestion! I've often wondered if different radial sections of a hinge could experience different amounts of friction.
 
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There could be any combination of rust, dirt and moisture accumulating unevenly on the hinges.
 
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(thread moved from the Homework forums to the General Discussion forum)
 
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Is the door hung so it will to close from gravity alone? Is this a design feature or just an old house?
 
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kuruman said:
There could be any combination of rust, dirt and moisture accumulating unevenly on the hinges.
..., plus a dollop of shoddy/slipshod construction, and it's anybody's guess....
 
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Houses settle. Unevenly. I once designed a beam so that a friend could remove a load bearing interior wall. When we forced the beam into place, it had the effect of straightening the second floor. Every door on the second floor jammed.
 
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My house turns 83 this year. Is that an old house? I can't decide ( After all it is only a dozen years older than moi and I never looked better although I do sag a little.......)
 
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Do you want the door to close or to not close?
 
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Ben2 said:
Is there another possible cause besides a sloping floor?
You mean a non-vertical hinge axis? Perhaps one inclined in the plane that is 75 degrees from the latch?

One does hope that the hinges are all colinear. Flexing the door as it goes through its motion would allow a place for potential energy to be deposited.
 
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OP hasn't been seen since several days ago when he posted the question. Seems he doesn't really care.
 
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I thought I heard something: Sounded like a door hitting someone in the...

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berkeman said:
I thought I heard something: Sounded like a door hitting someone in the...

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FAQ: Solving Rotary Friction Problem at Ye Olde Swinging Door

What is the primary cause of rotary friction in the swinging door mechanism?

The primary cause of rotary friction in the swinging door mechanism is the interaction between the door's pivot or hinge and its support structure. This friction arises due to the materials used, the load on the door, and the lubrication (or lack thereof) within the hinge assembly.

How can lubrication help in reducing rotary friction in the swinging door?

Lubrication can significantly reduce rotary friction by creating a thin film between the moving parts of the hinge. This film minimizes direct contact, thereby reducing wear and the amount of force needed to swing the door. Common lubricants include oil, grease, and specialized friction-reducing compounds.

What materials are best suited for hinges to minimize rotary friction?

Materials such as stainless steel, brass, and certain high-strength polymers are well-suited for hinges to minimize rotary friction. These materials offer good wear resistance, low friction coefficients, and durability. Additionally, incorporating ball bearings or bushings made from these materials can further reduce friction.

Can design modifications help in solving rotary friction issues at the swinging door?

Yes, design modifications can help solve rotary friction issues. Implementing features such as ball-bearing hinges, adjustable tension mechanisms, and self-lubricating materials can enhance the door's performance. Ensuring proper alignment and load distribution also plays a crucial role in minimizing friction.

How often should maintenance be performed to keep rotary friction at a minimum?

Maintenance frequency depends on the door's usage and environmental conditions. Generally, for a high-traffic door, inspecting and lubricating the hinges every three to six months is recommended. For doors with moderate use, an annual check-up should suffice. Regular maintenance helps identify wear and tear early, ensuring smooth operation and longevity.

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