Solving Separable Equations: How to Solve for Y in Terms of X

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In summary, the conversation is discussing how to solve a quadratic equation in terms of y, specifically the equation y^2 - 2y = x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3. It is mentioned that the equation is quadratic in y and that the expression x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3 should be treated as the 'c' value in the quadratic equation. The conversation ends with the understanding that c= -x^3- 2x^2- 2x- 3.
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Ok, I'm having trouble with the last part of this problem. After solving for the constant C, I get:
y^2 - 2y = x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3

My question is, how do I solve this in terms of Y? The only instruction my book gives me is "To obtain the solution explicitly we must solve for y in terms of x. This is a simple matter in this case since the equation is quadratic in y" and then they jump to the solution:
y = 1 +/- sqrt(x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 4)
 
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Well you said it yourself: it's a quadratic in terms of y.

Do you know how to solve quadratic equations?
 
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dav2008 said:
Well you said it yourself: it's a quadratic in terms of y.

Do you know how to solve quadratic equations?


So would the expression x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3 be treated as the 'c' value in the quadratic eq?
 
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Yep.

Remember that the quadratic equation let's you solve for a certain variable (we'll call it w here) when you have an equation in the form of [itex]aw^2+bw+c=0[/itex]
 
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Alright I got it, thanks a lot
 
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davegillmour said:
So would the expression x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3 be treated as the 'c' value in the quadratic eq?

Actually, no. Since your equation is y^2 - 2y = x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3
and the quadratic is normally written ay^2+ by+ c= 0,
c= -x^3- 2x^2- 2x- 3.
 

FAQ: Solving Separable Equations: How to Solve for Y in Terms of X

How do I know when an equation is separable?

An equation is considered separable if it can be written in the form of f(x)dx = g(y)dy, where f(x) and g(y) are functions of x and y respectively. In other words, the variables can be separated on different sides of the equation.

What are the steps to solve a separable equation?

The steps to solve a separable equation are as follows:

  • Separate the variables on opposite sides of the equation
  • Integrate both sides with respect to their respective variables
  • Add a constant of integration to one side of the equation
  • Solve for y in terms of x by isolating y on one side of the equation
  • Substitute in the constant of integration to obtain the final solution

Can a separable equation have more than one solution?

Yes, a separable equation can have more than one solution. When integrating, it is important to always include a constant of integration, which can result in multiple solutions.

What is the purpose of solving for y in terms of x in a separable equation?

Solving for y in terms of x allows us to express the relationship between the two variables in a more simplified form. It also allows us to easily graph the equation and analyze the behavior of the function.

Are there any limitations to solving separable equations?

Yes, there are some limitations to solving separable equations. One limitation is that the variables must be able to be separated on opposite sides of the equation. In addition, not all equations can be solved using this method and may require other techniques such as substitution or using a computer program.

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