Solving Simple System of Equations: Step-by-Step Guide

In summary, the conversation discussed a system of equations and the attempt to solve it by dividing and substituting, which was shown to not work. The suggestion was made to use a = 2^x and b = 2^y to simplify the equations and then solve for 'a' and 'b' using a quadratic equation. It was also noted that there are multiple solutions to these equations.
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DrummingAtom
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Homework Statement



2x + 2y = 10

(2x)2 + (2y)2 = 68

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



If I divide them, I'm right back where I started to:

2x+ 2y = 6.8

I can't subtract or substitute either because that turns into a mess. Thanks for any help.
 
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Try solving for 2^x in the top expression then insert that in the bottom expression and expand. Then solve the quadratic replacing 2^y with z (or whatever) and then find the appropriate result.
 
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DrummingAtom said:

Homework Statement



2x + 2y = 10

(2x)2 + (2y)2 = 68

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



If I divide them, I'm right back where I started to:

2x+ 2y = 6.8

I can't subtract or substitute either because that turns into a mess. Thanks for any help.
I can see that 68/10 = 6.8. Are you thinking that
[tex]\frac{(2^x)^2 + (2^y)^2}{2^x + 2^y} = 2^x + 2^y \text{?}[/tex]

That's not true at all. That's like saying that (3 + 8)/(1 + 4) = 3 + 2 = 5. The true value of the expression on the left is 11/5 = 2.2.
 
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DrummingAtom said:

Homework Statement



2x + 2y = 10

(2x)2 + (2y)2 = 68

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



If I divide them, I'm right back where I started to:

2x+ 2y = 6.8

I can't subtract or substitute either because that turns into a mess. Thanks for any help.

Write a = 2^x and b = 2^y, so your equations become a + b = 10 and a^2 + b^2 = 68. Note that if we square both sides of the first equation we get 100 = (a+b)^2, and we can write this as 100 = a^2 + b^2 + 2*a*b. Since we already know a^2 + b^2 from the second equation, we can get a*b. So now we have a simpler system in which we know a + b and a*b. From these, we can get 'a' by solving a quadratic equation, although you need to worry about which of the two quadratic roots you should use. Once you have 'a' you can get 'b', and then you can get x and y from those.

RGV
 
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Ray Vickson said:
...although you need to worry about which of the two quadratic roots you should use. Once you have 'a' you can get 'b', and then you can get x and y from those.

Little note: there is not a single solution to these equations (when I worked it, I got two symmetrical solutions). So both roots should be valid. (multiple solutions make sense since y and x are equally weighted in both systems)
 

FAQ: Solving Simple System of Equations: Step-by-Step Guide

What is a simple system of equations?

A simple system of equations is a set of two or more equations that can be solved simultaneously to find the values of the variables that satisfy all of the equations.

What is the difference between a simple and a complex system of equations?

A simple system of equations typically consists of two or three linear equations with two or three variables, while a complex system may involve more equations and variables, and may also include non-linear equations.

How do you solve a simple system of equations?

There are multiple methods for solving a simple system of equations, including substitution, elimination, and graphing. Each method involves manipulating the equations to eliminate one variable and solve for the others.

What does it mean if a system of equations has no solution?

If a simple system of equations has no solution, it means that there is no set of values for the variables that satisfies all of the equations at the same time. Geometrically, this means that the equations represent parallel lines or planes that do not intersect.

Can a simple system of equations have more than one solution?

Yes, a simple system of equations can have more than one solution. This means that there are multiple sets of values for the variables that satisfy all of the equations at the same time. Geometrically, this means that the equations represent intersecting lines or planes.

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