Solving the Complex Equation: d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O)

In summary: Then you can start with the formula for distance, and manipulate it using trig identities to try to get to the given formula.In summary, the conversation is about proving the formula for horizontal distance traveled by a cannon ball fired from an angle o with an initial velocity of v on a hill sloping down at an angle O. The formula given is d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O), and the conversation involves trying to manipulate it using trig identities to obtain the formula for distance. The expert suggests changing the variables to a and b for clarity and recommends drawing a diagram for better understanding.
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msadegian
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Homework Statement


So you basically have to prove this big long equation d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O)


Homework Equations


sin(O+o)=sin(O)cos(o)+sin(o)cos(O)


The Attempt at a Solution



so i have weeded it down to this:

d=2v2((sinOsinO/cosOcoso)+(sinocosO/coso)+(sinOcoso/cosO)+(cosOcoso))/g

so i have the sin(O+o)=sin(O)cos(o)+sin(o)cos(O) part but i don't know how to get rid of the denominators and to get the other parts of the equation!
 
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  • #2
msadegian said:

Homework Statement


So you basically have to prove this big long equation d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O)
Are you trying to prove that the equation is an identity, or are you trying to solve the equation? I don't think you're actually trying to prove this is an identity, but I have no idea what you're trying to solve for.

BTW, you're setting yourself up for disaster by choosing o and O for variables, both of which look a lot alike, and both of which resemble 0 (zero).

I would strongly advise changing your variables to something like this:
d=2v2cos(a)sin(b+a)/gcos(b)
msadegian said:

Homework Equations


sin(O+o)=sin(O)cos(o)+sin(o)cos(O)


The Attempt at a Solution



so i have weeded it down to this:

d=2v2((sinOsinO/cosOcoso)+(sinocosO/coso)+(sinOcoso/cosO)+(cosOcoso))/g

so i have the sin(O+o)=sin(O)cos(o)+sin(o)cos(O) part but i don't know how to get rid of the denominators and to get the other parts of the equation!
 
  • #3
you're trying to prove the distance
and yeah well those were just the variables that were given to us but you're right it would be a lot easier to use a and b or something

any idea on how to solve?

basically the question he gave us is:
A cannon ball is fired from an angle o with an initial velocity of v. The hill slopes own with an angle of O. Prove that the horizontal distance the cannon ball travels is given by d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O)
 
  • #4
msadegian said:
you're trying to prove the distance
No, you're not trying to prove the distance, which makes no sense. You're trying to prove that the distance can be obtained from the formula you showed. IOW, if the gun is fired as described, you have to come up with the formula d=2v2cos(a)sin(b+a)/gcos(b). You don't start from it; you end up with it.

How is this distance measured - horizontally or along the ground down the hill? It makes a difference.

You're going about this the wrong way. Based on the given information, you should end up with the formula for distance. What you seem to be doing is trying to use trig identities to write the formula in a different way. That is not what the problem is asking you to do.

Have you drawn a diagram? I can guarantee that you will have no success without a drawing.

What are the forces on the round after it leaves the barrel of the gun?
msadegian said:
and yeah well those were just the variables that were given to us but you're right it would be a lot easier to use a and b or something

any idea on how to solve?

basically the question he gave us is:
A cannon ball is fired from an angle o with an initial velocity of v. The hill slopes own with an angle of O. Prove that the horizontal distance the cannon ball travels is given by d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O)

Again, change the variables, with o = a, and O = b.
 

FAQ: Solving the Complex Equation: d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O)

1. What is the equation "d=2v2cos(o)sin(O+o)/gcos(O)" used for?

The equation is used to solve for the distance (d) traveled by an object in projectile motion, given the initial velocity (v), initial angle (o), and acceleration due to gravity (g).

2. What do the variables in the equation represent?

The variable v represents the initial velocity of the object, o represents the initial angle at which the object is launched, and g represents the acceleration due to gravity.

3. How is this equation derived?

The equation is derived from the equations of motion for projectile motion, specifically the equations for horizontal and vertical displacement, velocity, and acceleration.

4. Is this equation applicable to all types of projectile motion?

Yes, this equation can be used to solve for the distance traveled by an object in any type of projectile motion, as long as the initial velocity, angle, and acceleration due to gravity are known.

5. Can this equation be used to solve for other variables in projectile motion?

Yes, this equation can also be rearranged to solve for the initial velocity, initial angle, or acceleration due to gravity, as long as the other variables are known.

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