Solving Weird Integral Problem: \int (x+8)/(x+4) | AP Calculus Bonus Question

In summary, The conversation is about finding the integral of (x+8)/(x+4). The original attempt was to split the problem into two smaller integrals, but the person is now stuck. Another person suggests using a trick of factoring the equation and using polynomial division. The original person is impressed and thanks the other person for the help. Another person joins in the conversation and mentions learning polynomial division in a more difficult way, but they prefer their own method. The others point out that their method is just a variation of polynomial long division, which can also be used for more complicated equations.
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Totalderiv
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Homework Statement



[tex] \int (x+8)/(x+4) [/tex]

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to split the problem which resulted in:

[tex] \int x/(x+4) + \int 8/(x+4) [/tex]

But now I'm stuck,and this is a bonus question on my AP Calculus homework.
 
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  • #2
Totalderiv said:
[tex] \int (x+8)/(x+4) [/tex]

Do polynomial division and it becomes much simpler.
 
  • #3
It might help to factor it like this:

[tex]\frac{x+8}{x+4} = \frac{(x+4)+4}{x+4}[/tex]

Then use the same trick you did.
 
  • #4
Char. Limit said:
It might help to factor it like this:

[tex]\frac{x+8}{x+4} = \frac{(x+4)+4}{x+4}[/tex]

Then use the same trick you did.

That's pretty slick.
 
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gb7nash said:
That's pretty slick.

Thanks, it's my own little algebraic trick.
 
  • #6
Thanks for the help!
 
  • #7
Char. Limit said:
Thanks, it's my own little algebraic trick.
It is, of course, the same as the "polynomial division" that gb7nash suggested.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
It is, of course, the same as the "polynomial division" that gb7nash suggested.

Srsly? The way I learned polynomial division is much, much harder.
 
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I think "much much harder" is a srs exaggeration.
 
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Dick said:
I think "much much harder" is a srs exaggeration.

Well I mean, I learned it the way long division is taught, and I never liked long division. I prefer my method, whether it's called polynomial division or not.
 
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It is a way of doing polynomial long division. It works neat for linear/linear. But in that case polynomial long division isn't that hard either. Try it for (x^2+9)/(x+4). Sure, you can do it. At least polynomial long division is has a method instead of relying on a trick that you have to reinvent as the cases change.
 
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