Spinning object losing mass implies torque?

In summary, the conversation discusses whether a spinning uniform object that is losing mass will experience a change in angular velocity. It is stated that the angular momentum of the object will decrease due to a change in moment of inertia, but the answer given is that the angular velocity will remain constant. This is because, assuming no external forces, the angular (and linear) momentum of the closed system consisting of the spinning object and any "lost" mass remains constant. The question is then raised whether the angular velocity of the big mass changes, and it is concluded that there will be no change in angular velocity if there is no force on the big mass during release. This is demonstrated through the example of a spinning ice skater with weights attached to her arms
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Does a spinning uniform object which is losing mass experience a change in angular velocity?

It seems to me the angular momentum changes due to a change in the moment of inertia of the object, which depends on mass. The angular momentum of the object would decrease, if we just look at the object alone (L=Iw). So there is some torque since change in L implies a torque. But then that also means an angular acceleration so that w is not constant.

The answer given is that angular velocity for the object is constant. Why?
 
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Assuming no external forces, the angular (and linear) momentum of the closed system consisting of the spinning object and any "lost" mass remains constant, so it depends on how the object is losing mass.
 
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treat it as two bodies, a big mass and a little mass …

the question is, does the angular velocity of the big mass change? :wink:

(and the only force on the big mass is the "kick" from the little mass, if any)
 
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There is no force on the big mass during release, the released weight follows a tangent to the path of the extremity of the object. This should imply no torque and no change in angular velocity. Like if a spinning ice skater had weights attached to her outstretched arms and then the weights were released by some mechanism. I guess its just counter intuitive to me that the skater would not change angular speed in that case.
 
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The statement that the angular velocity is constant may not be entirely accurate. While the angular velocity may remain relatively constant, there will likely be a decrease in angular velocity as the mass of the object decreases. This is because the moment of inertia, which is a factor in calculating angular velocity, is dependent on mass. As the mass decreases, the moment of inertia decreases as well, leading to a decrease in angular velocity. However, it is possible that the decrease in mass is small enough that the change in angular velocity is negligible and can be considered constant. Additionally, other factors such as external forces or friction may also play a role in the change of angular velocity. In general, the concept of torque and angular velocity is complex and requires a more detailed analysis to fully understand the effects of a spinning object losing mass.
 

FAQ: Spinning object losing mass implies torque?

How does a spinning object lose mass?

A spinning object loses mass due to the process of evaporation or sublimation. This occurs when the molecules on the surface of the spinning object gain enough energy to break away from the surface and become gas molecules.

What is torque and how does it relate to a spinning object losing mass?

Torque is a measure of the force that causes an object to rotate around an axis. In the case of a spinning object losing mass, torque is generated by the force of the molecules breaking away from the surface. This torque causes the spinning object to slow down and eventually stop spinning.

Why does a spinning object lose mass when it spins?

A spinning object loses mass due to the conservation of angular momentum. As the object spins, the mass that is lost in the form of evaporated molecules carries away some of the object's angular momentum. This results in a decrease in the object's overall mass and a decrease in its spinning speed.

Can a spinning object continue spinning indefinitely without losing mass?

No, a spinning object cannot continue spinning indefinitely without losing mass. As explained earlier, the process of evaporation or sublimation will cause the object to lose mass and eventually slow down and stop spinning.

Is the loss of mass from a spinning object significant?

The loss of mass from a spinning object may not be significant for smaller objects, but it can have a significant impact on larger objects such as planets or stars. In these cases, the loss of mass due to spinning can affect the object's overall mass and rotation, leading to changes in its orbit or even its shape.

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