Spring in a groove inside the Earth

In summary, the question asks for the value of the spring constant K in a system where a ball of mass m is released from a height R above the Earth's surface and goes through a narrow groove with a natural length of R containing the ideal spring. By conserving energy, the equation for the GPE is found to be different inside and outside the Earth, leading to the correct answer of K=7GMm/R^3. The student is reminded that they must do the majority of their homework themselves and that providing too much information can hinder their learning.
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Homework Statement


A small ball of mass 'm' is released at a height 'R' above the Earth's surface. The maximum depth of the ball to which it goes is R/2 inside the Earth through a narrow groove before coming to rest momentarily. The groove contains an ideal spring of spring constant K and natural length R. The value of K, if R is the radius of the Earth and M is the mass of the Earth is,

Ans: 7GMm/R^3

Homework Equations


PE= -GMm/R
KE= 1/2 m v^2
PE(of spring)= 1/2 kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Conserving energy of the spring- mass system at point of release (at a distance 2R from the centre of the earth) and when it comes to rest at a distance R/2 from the centre of the earth,
PE(of body initially)=PE(of body finally)+PE(of spring)
-GMm/2R = -2GMm/R + 1/2*k*(R^2/4)
k= 12GMm/R^3

I don't understand what's wrong with my answer.
 
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Must be the PE relationship. Does PE go to infinity if R goes to 0 ?
 
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Yeah, it goes to negative infinity.
 
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Think again. not all the mass of the Earth is located at the center
 
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actually the GPE inside and outside a solid sphere are different.
outside : -GMm/r (r=distance from centre of sphere)
inside: << Formula deleted by Mentor >>
 
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manasi bandhaokar said:
actually the GPE inside and outside a solid sphere are different.
outside : -GMm/r (r=distance from centre of sphere)
inside: << Formula deleted by Mentor >>
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Remember that the student must do the bulk of their homework themselves. It's fine to provide the hint that the equation for the GPE is different inside the Earth compared to outside, but the student is expected to figure out the equation by themselves Thanks..
 

FAQ: Spring in a groove inside the Earth

What is the "spring" in a groove inside the Earth?

The "spring" in a groove inside the Earth refers to the phenomenon of a spring-like movement of the Earth's crust in response to changes in the weight of the overlying material. This movement occurs as the Earth's mantle flows and adjusts to changes in mass distribution, such as melting glaciers or changes in sea level.

How does the "spring" movement affect the Earth's surface?

The "spring" movement can cause subtle changes in the Earth's surface, including uplift or subsidence of land, changes in the tilt of the Earth's axis, and changes in the shape of the Earth's surface. These changes can have significant impacts on global climate and geologic processes.

Can humans cause changes in the "spring" movement?

Yes, human activities such as groundwater extraction, oil and gas extraction, and large-scale mining operations can cause changes in the weight distribution of the Earth's surface, which can in turn affect the "spring" movement and lead to land subsidence or uplift in certain areas.

Is the "spring" movement the same as plate tectonics?

No, the "spring" movement is a separate phenomenon from plate tectonics. Plate tectonics refers to the movement of large sections of the Earth's crust, while the "spring" movement is a more subtle and localized response to changes in mass distribution within the Earth's interior.

How do scientists study the "spring" movement inside the Earth?

Scientists use a variety of techniques, including satellite measurements, GPS data, and seismology, to study the "spring" movement inside the Earth. These methods allow scientists to track changes in the Earth's surface and infer the corresponding movements of the Earth's interior.

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