Spring Question? How much does the block move?

F = -1/2k(x22-x12)In summary, the conversation discusses a spring with a pointer attached that is used to measure weights of different packages. Using the equation F = -k*x, the participants try to determine the weight of a third package that hangs 30 mm from the spring. They create a system of equations using the weights of the other two packages, 110 N and 240 N, and solve for the spring constant k. However, there is confusion about the equation to use, as the problem is about forces rather than work. The suggestion is made to use F = -k*x instead of xF = -1/2k(x22-x12) to solve the problem.
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A spring with a pointer attached is hanging next to a scale marked in millimeters. Three different packages are hung from the spring. W1 is 110 N, and hangs 40mm from the spring, W2 is 240N and hangs 60mm from the spring W3 is x N and hangs 30 mm from the springWhat mark on the scale will the pointer indicate when no package is hung from the spring?

What is the weight W of the 3rd package?

W = -1/2k(x22-x12)

One thing I wasn't sure about was this equation--are x1 and x2 in the correct order here because you're looking at the work done to stretch a spring?

3. I figured out that I had to create a system of equations from the two given weights, 110 N and 240 N, using the equation above. After converting mm to meters, I got two equations--

14.4 = -0.0018k + 0.5kx12
4.4 = -0.0008k + 0.5x12

I solved for k, got -10,000, and plugged back in, and got a length of 26.8 m--is that right? Because my online homework thing tells me I'm wrong...
 
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I think you have the wrong equation. The problem is about Forces, not Work.

Consider using F = -k*x
 
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I would like to clarify the question and the given information. The question asks for the mark on the scale when no package is hung from the spring, but the information provided includes three packages with their respective weights and distances from the spring. It is not clear if the scale is being used to measure the distance or the weight of the packages.

To answer the question, we need to know the spring constant (k) of the spring, which is not given in the information provided. Without the value of k, we cannot accurately determine the mark on the scale when no package is hung from the spring.

Regarding the equation given, W = -1/2k(x22-x12), it is correct. However, as you pointed out, the order of x1 and x2 needs to be consistent with the direction of the work done. In this case, x1 should be the initial length of the spring and x2 should be the final length after the package is hung.

To determine the weight of the third package (W3), we need to know the value of k and the distance (x3) that the package hangs from the spring. Without this information, we cannot accurately determine the weight of the third package.

In conclusion, to accurately answer the question and determine the weight of the third package, we need to know the value of the spring constant (k) and the distance (x3) that the package hangs from the spring.
 

FAQ: Spring Question? How much does the block move?

What is the concept of "Spring Question"?

"Spring Question" refers to a physics concept that involves a block attached to a spring and experiencing a restoring force when displaced from its equilibrium position.

How does a spring work in relation to the block?

The spring exerts a force on the block, known as the restoring force, in the opposite direction of its displacement from the equilibrium position. This force allows the block to oscillate back and forth around its equilibrium position.

What factors affect the amount of movement in the block?

The amount of movement, or displacement, in the block is affected by the force applied to the spring, the spring constant, and the mass of the block. The greater the force or the spring constant, the more the block will move.

How is the displacement of the block measured?

The displacement of the block can be measured by recording the distance the block moves from its equilibrium position. This can be done using a ruler or other measuring tool.

Can the block continue to move indefinitely?

No, the block will eventually come to a stop due to factors such as air resistance and friction. The amplitude of its oscillations will also decrease over time due to the loss of potential energy in the spring.

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