Static vs Kinetic Friction on an Unbanked Ramp

In summary, the comparison between static and kinetic friction on an unbanked ramp highlights the differences in frictional forces acting on an object at rest versus one in motion. Static friction prevents an object from sliding down the ramp until a certain threshold is reached, while kinetic friction acts on the object once it starts moving, typically being lower than static friction. This distinction is crucial for understanding how objects interact with inclined surfaces and the factors influencing their motion, such as angle of inclination and surface material.
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Homework Statement
A car with a mass of 1000 kg is moving on an un-banked ramp with a radius of 100 m. What is the maximum speed the car can move without skidding if the coefficients of static and kinetic friction are 0.80 and 0.60 respectively?
Relevant Equations
mgμ=mv^2/r
I used kinetic friction and did mgμ_k=mv^2/r. However, the solution is mgμ_s=mv^2/r. I am confused on why we consider static friction and not kinetic friction, thanks!
 
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mancity said:
I am confused on why we consider static friction and not kinetic friction, thanks!
It is a common misunderstanding.
Friction is about relative motion of surfaces in contact. Kinetic friction occurs when there is such relative motion; static occurs when there is no such relative motion, only the potential for it.
If a wheel is not skidding ("rolling contact") then there is no relative motion. The part of the wheel touching a road has, instantaneously, zero velocity.
 
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Here the friction has double role. Besides enabling the rolling without slipping, which applies even when the car moves along a straight road, the friction provides the centripetal force for the circular motion. "Skidding" here refers to the case when the friction is not enough to provide the centripetal force for the car to move in a circle of the given radius with the given velocity. In this case the car moves outwards from the center. You are looking for the situation when this does not happen and the car does not move along the radial direction and the component of the friction acting along the radial direction provides the centripetal force. No motion along the radial direction means that the radial component of friction is static.
There is a tangential component of friction that ensures rolling without slipping. This is also static, as described by @haruspex.
 
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nasu said:
There is a tangential component of friction that ensures rolling without slipping.
Only if there is tangential acceleration. This is important since any tangential frictional force contributes to the total frictional force, thereby "using up" some of the available ##\mu_sN## and reducing the max speed.
 
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FAQ: Static vs Kinetic Friction on an Unbanked Ramp

What is the difference between static and kinetic friction?

Static friction is the force that resists the initiation of sliding motion between two surfaces that are in contact and at rest relative to each other. Kinetic friction, on the other hand, is the force that opposes the relative motion of two surfaces that are already sliding against each other. Static friction is generally higher than kinetic friction.

How do you calculate static and kinetic friction on an unbanked ramp?

The static friction force can be calculated using the formula \( f_s = \mu_s N \), where \( \mu_s \) is the coefficient of static friction and \( N \) is the normal force. The kinetic friction force is given by \( f_k = \mu_k N \), where \( \mu_k \) is the coefficient of kinetic friction. On an unbanked ramp, the normal force \( N \) is equal to \( mg \cos(\theta) \), where \( m \) is the mass of the object, \( g \) is the acceleration due to gravity, and \( \theta \) is the angle of the ramp.

Why is static friction generally higher than kinetic friction?

Static friction is generally higher than kinetic friction because it takes more force to initiate the movement of an object at rest than to keep it moving once it has started. This is due to the microscopic interlocking between the surfaces in contact, which requires more force to break free initially.

At what angle does an object start to slide down an unbanked ramp?

An object starts to slide down an unbanked ramp when the component of gravitational force parallel to the ramp exceeds the maximum static friction force. This occurs at the angle \( \theta \) where \( \tan(\theta) = \mu_s \). Thus, the critical angle \( \theta_c \) can be found using \( \theta_c = \arctan(\mu_s) \).

How does the mass of an object affect static and kinetic friction on an unbanked ramp?

The mass of an object affects both static and kinetic friction through the normal force. Since the normal force \( N \) is equal to \( mg \cos(\theta) \), an increase in mass \( m \) results in a proportional increase in the normal force. Consequently, both static friction \( f_s = \mu_s N \) and kinetic friction \( f_k = \mu_k N \) will increase with the mass of the object.

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