Statistics- Rolling a loaded die

There are 36 pairs (i,j) with i and j integers from 1 through 6. You need to compute the probability of each of these pairs (i,j) with i+j ≥ 10 (since you need the sum to be at least 10). The numerator is the number of pairs (i,j) with i=j=5 and i+j ≥ 10. Does this make sense now?
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Homework Statement



A certain die is weighted such that probabilities of showing a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are
(6/34),
(8/34),
(5/34),
(3/34),
(8/34),
and
(4/34)

A) If two such dice are thrown, and you are told that the sum of the two is 10 or larger. What is the probability that the result was a pair of 5's?

B) How many times would you have to throw this die to have the probability of throwing a 2 exceed 40 percent?


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



A) For this the possible outcomes for a sum of 10 or greater are:

4-6
5-5
5-6
6-4
6-5
6-6

Getting rid of duplicates, since order doesn't matter there is a 1/4 chance it's double fives. I multiplied this by (8/34)(8/34) and got a probability of .01384

B) For this I used the equation

Probability = Successful outcomes/Total number of outcomes

so .4 = (8/34)/n

solving for n I get .588, which doesn't make sense.


I'm just learning statistics, so if anything I tried to do offends you mathematically, I'm very sorry!
 
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dinospamoni said:

Homework Statement



A certain die is weighted such that probabilities of showing a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are
(6/34),
(8/34),
(5/34),
(3/34),
(8/34),
and
(4/34)

A) If two such dice are thrown, and you are told that the sum of the two is 10 or larger. What is the probability that the result was a pair of 5's?

B) How many times would you have to throw this die to have the probability of throwing a 2 exceed 40 percent?


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



A) For this the possible outcomes for a sum of 10 or greater are:

4-6
5-5
5-6
6-4
6-5
6-6

Getting rid of duplicates, since order doesn't matter there is a 1/4 chance it's double fives. I multiplied this by (8/34)(8/34) and got a probability of .01384

B) For this I used the equation

Probability = Successful outcomes/Total number of outcomes

so .4 = (8/34)/n

solving for n I get .588, which doesn't make sense.


I'm just learning statistics, so if anything I tried to do offends you mathematically, I'm very sorry!

Don't apologize; we are not offended by errors. Besides, this is a probability question, not a statistics one.

Anyway, in (a): eliminating duplicates is an error. For example, 6-4 and 4-6 both contribute equally to getting '10'. For (a) I get the answer 8/21 ≈ 0.38095.

For (b), you want to find the smallest n so that the probability of getting at least one '2' in trials 1,2,...,n is = 0.40. I'll just give a hint to get you going. Look at the experiments as having only two outcomes: S (success = get a '2') or F (failure = not a '2'). Let p = 8/34 = 4/17 be the success probability per trial and q = 1-p = 13/17 be the failure probability per trial.

What is the probability that your first S occurs in trial n? For that to happen, the first (n-1) trials must all give F. What is the probability for that to happen? The probability that the first S occurs on or before trial n is a sum of such probabilities.
 
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Would you mind explaining how you got part A? I can't figure out how you did it.
 
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dinospamoni said:
Would you mind explaining how you got part A? I can't figure out how you did it.

If S is the sum we have
[tex] P\{(5,5)|S \geq 10\} = \frac{P\{(5,5)\; \& \;S \geq 10 \}}{P\{S \geq 10\}} \\
= \frac{P\{(5,5)\}}{ P\{S \geq 10 \}}[/tex]
because {(5,5) & S ≥ 10} = {(5,5)} (since the event {(5,5)} is a subevent of {S ≥ 10}).
So, you need to compute P{S ≥ 10}.
 

FAQ: Statistics- Rolling a loaded die

How do you determine if a die is loaded?

To determine if a die is loaded, you can conduct a statistical test by rolling the die multiple times and recording the results. Then, you can compare the observed frequencies to the expected frequencies of each number on a fair die. If the observed frequencies are significantly different from the expected frequencies, it is likely that the die is loaded.

What is the likelihood of rolling a specific number on a loaded die?

The likelihood of rolling a specific number on a loaded die depends on the degree of loading. If the die is heavily loaded, the likelihood of rolling a specific number will be higher than if the die is lightly loaded. However, the exact likelihood can only be determined through experimentation and statistical analysis.

Can a loaded die be used in a fair game?

No, a loaded die cannot be used in a fair game as it gives an unfair advantage to the person using it. In a fair game, each outcome should have an equal chance of occurring, which is not the case with a loaded die.

How does the loading of a die affect the average roll?

The loading of a die can significantly affect the average roll. In a fair die, the average roll would be 3.5, but with a loaded die, the average roll can be higher or lower depending on the degree of loading. For example, if the die is heavily loaded towards rolling a 6, the average roll would be higher than 3.5.

Can a loaded die be detected by the naked eye?

In most cases, a loaded die cannot be detected by the naked eye as the difference in weight or shape may be minimal. However, experienced players may be able to detect subtle differences in the way the die rolls or bounces, which can indicate that the die is loaded.

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